holidayZ

Bought a cam sensor, that wasn't it, I also checked the plug next to the motor going to the Crankshaft sensor and its getting power. So I am lost as to why it's still not working.

holidayZ

Well I pulled everything back off and looked again. I an getting power all the way to the sensor no problem at all. So any suggestions guys please. I don't want to take this car to the shop after all the work I've done.

bakuro117

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Do this. Or find another scanner at your local parts store. Get the exact fault code and we'll be able to better direct you from there.

It does still sound like something is wrong with some sensor that monitors timing. Be that cam or crank it sounds like one of them isnt signaling properly.

Come to think about it. Did you remove the crankshaft sprockets? You didnt happen to somehow get that sensing plate backwards did you? IIRC i think it has a different number of teeth on each side.

holidayZ

My reader comes in today so I'll get the codes when it comes in. I have changed both the Crankshaft and Cam sensor, along with the coil packs, and all belts. No I never took off the sensing plate at all.

kaj

iTrader: (60)

And you also never removed the cam sensor triggers, correct?

holidayZ

No I am sure I never touched that.

CrAnSwIcK

iTrader: (5)

stop throwing parts at it until you find the fault...I only mentioned the cam sensor as a possibility. is your lower timing cover off at the moment? are you sure the connector in the lower cover is seated correctly?

holidayZ

Yes I am 110% positive that is it seated correctly. I am done throwing parts at it trust me, but most of what I replaced had never been done ever. So it's peace of mind to have newer parts on it.

kaj

iTrader: (60)

So weird because any combination of popping, backfire, and not starting is usually a symptom of bad timing, unless I'm forgetting something.

CrAnSwIcK

iTrader: (5)

your engine is out of time...I didn't even notice the picture of the first page, It must not have loaded on my ****ty internet, but your engine is waaaay out of time...you/someone used the crank pulley dowel as the timing mark. your valves are probably bent. You're about to put in a lot more money if you want that engine running. who installed that belt?

it also looks like your timing case is covered in oil or something...

kaj

iTrader: (60)

I can't see pics from my work computer. What's he got going on? I was 99% sure it was timing.

bakuro117

iTrader: (5)

Ouch. Couldnt see the pic at work either. Looks like the crank shaft is about 120* out of rotation. Your supposed to time to the dot on the sensing plate. And its timed to that alignment dowel.

kaj

iTrader: (60)

Oh, crap, dude. That is no bueno.

Fix that timing ASAP then do a comp check. I'd hope for the best but expect the worst. Good luck, dude.