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Old Apr 8, 2016, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
You won't max a real 255 and 1kcc injectors with a stock 10.5 turbo.

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He has deep-seeded hatred for Walbro 255s. LOL
Old Apr 8, 2016, 09:09 PM
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I don't see why you will need to get another tuner, he is right and Imo gave you good advice. Be advice that pushing a stock long block the way you want to push it may or may not result in a blown engine.
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Originally Posted by Rmr298
I don't see why you will need to get another tuner, he is right and Imo gave you good advice. Be advice that pushing a stock long block the way you want to push it may or may not result in a blown engine.
This is not completely true. I say completely because we all know anything can happen with any engine seeing higher HP and TQ. I ran 400hp with 380TQ on E85 with zero issues for 70k and it's still in one piece. I would be a little worried about this particular motor due to its high miles and not knowing what the other owner did to the car. Built transmission and transfer case lead me to believe it was beat on pretty good at one point.

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Originally Posted by bryanf
This is not completely true. I say completely because we all know anything can happen with any engine seeing higher HP and TQ. I ran 400hp with 380TQ on E85 with zero issues for 70k and it's still in one piece. I would be a little worried about this particular motor due to its high miles and not knowing what the other owner did to the car. Built transmission and transfer case lead me to believe it was beat on pretty good at one point.

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reason why I said "it may or may not" yes anything can happen to any engine, but having a properly built engine with stronger parts will reduce your chances of blowing it up dramatically (unless is not tune properly). If he searches the forum he will find that its probably a 50/50 chance the engine won't survive for long. If you tune cars for a living you come to realize that as soon as an engine let go people start asking about it and doubting your skills; with that said I wouldn't want to be the tuner if I know the engine has a 50/50 chance its going to let go even though I might be doing my job properly. the tuner is just making sure he knows what could happen and at the same time is covering his ***.
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Old Apr 10, 2016, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
You won't max a real 255 and 1kcc injectors with a stock 10.5 turbo.

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But hes wanting to run e85 with a 255 doesnt sound safe to me I would rather have a little extra fuel myself. Are 255's even approved for e85 Im not sure about that one.
Old Apr 10, 2016, 08:24 AM
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But hes wanting to run e85 with a 255 doesnt sound safe to me I would rather have a little extra fuel myself. Are 255's even approved for e85 Im not sure about that one.
Hundreds upon hundreds of people have logged thousands upon thousands of miles and years upon years with real Walboro 255 pumps on E85, myself included.

Now you are just showing your ignorance.
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7 years experience running E85 (255 Wally /1000cc Inj at 85% IDC @ 27psi) Expertly tuned at 407hp/410 tq DynoJet
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From the little bit of info you shared, you have a ways to go if you want 400hp. Intake, IC, IC piping, TB, IM, O2, DP, exhaust, injectors, ignition amplifier, and I'm sure I'm missing some other things. And if what you're running on can't do more than 21psi you're screwed anyway, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by KazzEvo8
From the little bit of info you shared, you have a ways to go if you want 400hp. Intake, IC, IC piping, TB, IM, O2, DP, exhaust, injectors, ignition amplifier, and I'm sure I'm missing some other things. And if what you're running on can't do more than 21psi you're screwed anyway, IMHO.
You don't need all that for 400whp
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On OEM turbo you sure do.
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Ignition amplifier to hit 400hp? Throttle body?

No, no no, and no.
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Originally Posted by KazzEvo8
On OEM turbo you sure do.
No, you don't.
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Old Apr 10, 2016, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KazzEvo8
From the little bit of info you shared, you have a ways to go if you want 400hp. Intake, IC, IC piping, TB, IM, O2, DP, exhaust, injectors, ignition amplifier, and I'm sure I'm missing some other things. And if what you're running on can't do more than 21psi you're screwed anyway, IMHO.
Engine is bone stock (stock cams). Yes, all the IC piping done,Nisei comp IC & full 3" exhaust. No 02, no TB, no ignition thingy you mentioned (COP)

Ive got the paper work to prove it & have a seat & put your foot into it

Like I said, been on this set up over 7 years & burned 100's of gallons of E85
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Originally Posted by KazzEvo8
On OEM turbo you sure do.
You definitely do not
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Hundreds upon hundreds of people have logged thousands upon thousands of miles and years upon years with real Walboro 255 pumps on E85, myself included.

Now you are just showing your ignorance.
The question was does walbro approve the 255 for e85? The answer I can find is no. While it may "work" it's not approved by the manufacturer and now your just being an ***.


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