Innovate Ethanol Content gauge not same readings
#1
Innovate Ethanol Content gauge not same readings
I recently purchased Innovate Ethanol Content gauge, pretty simple install,,,
This is the problem im having, the readings im getting from the glass vials and the reading on the innovate gauge are why off,, the Innovate will read like 70/75 on the gauge ,when the the glass vial will show like E85 and higher tested with 2 different vials and i get the same results for both glass testers
Anyone having the same issue
This is the problem im having, the readings im getting from the glass vials and the reading on the innovate gauge are why off,, the Innovate will read like 70/75 on the gauge ,when the the glass vial will show like E85 and higher tested with 2 different vials and i get the same results for both glass testers
Anyone having the same issue
#2
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I live in So. Cal & have tested using the glass vial & have been reading 85 plus. I even called Pearson Fuels & was told their average is a solid 85%
But the vial method is questionable as youre relying on the placement of the graduated vial marking, which in my case is a decal
Also, after watching a couple of YT vids on these on board analyzers, makes you wonder whats the real reading
But the vial method is questionable as youre relying on the placement of the graduated vial marking, which in my case is a decal
Also, after watching a couple of YT vids on these on board analyzers, makes you wonder whats the real reading
#3
I recently purchased Innovate Ethanol Content gauge, pretty simple install,,,
This is the problem im having, the readings im getting from the glass vials and the reading on the innovate gauge are why off,, the Innovate will read like 70/75 on the gauge ,when the the glass vial will show like E85 and higher tested with 2 different vials and i get the same results for both glass testers
Anyone having the same issue
This is the problem im having, the readings im getting from the glass vials and the reading on the innovate gauge are why off,, the Innovate will read like 70/75 on the gauge ,when the the glass vial will show like E85 and higher tested with 2 different vials and i get the same results for both glass testers
Anyone having the same issue
#6
I know years ago when Zeitronix first came out with their display, their website had a list of vehicles where you could find compatible sensors. This list included both Ford and GM vehicles. Soon people figured out that the Ford sensors were calibrated differently, and they resulted in the Zeitronix display showing ethanol too low. When this became known, Zeitronix removed the Ford vehicles from their listing of compatible sensors.
Note that this was back when the FF sensors were big, clunky, and expensive. Now sensors are much smaller and lot cheaper. They may have also been standardized so this may not be an issue today, I don't know. If you got your sensor from Innovate, they probably provided the correct sensor, but it may be worth calling them about.
Note that this was back when the FF sensors were big, clunky, and expensive. Now sensors are much smaller and lot cheaper. They may have also been standardized so this may not be an issue today, I don't know. If you got your sensor from Innovate, they probably provided the correct sensor, but it may be worth calling them about.
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I know years ago when Zeitronix first came out with their display, their website had a list of vehicles where you could find compatible sensors. This list included both Ford and GM vehicles. Soon people figured out that the Ford sensors were calibrated differently, and they resulted in the Zeitronix display showing ethanol too low. When this became known, Zeitronix removed the Ford vehicles from their listing of compatible sensors.
Note that this was back when the FF sensors were big, clunky, and expensive. Now sensors are much smaller and lot cheaper. They may have also been standardized so this may not be an issue today, I don't know. If you got your sensor from Innovate, they probably provided the correct sensor, but it may be worth calling them about.
Note that this was back when the FF sensors were big, clunky, and expensive. Now sensors are much smaller and lot cheaper. They may have also been standardized so this may not be an issue today, I don't know. If you got your sensor from Innovate, they probably provided the correct sensor, but it may be worth calling them about.
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http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...ex-fuel-sensor
My point is I think it's possible there could be a Continental model, or similar that has a different calibration. When I bought my new one, I went cheap. I didn't buy from Innovate, Zeitronix etc, but I bought from a GM parts supplier just to make sure it was calibrated correctly, instead of buying off Ebay. I know it's probably a long, long shot to get the wrong calibration, but I think it could be possible.
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Here is what I was talking about, look about half way down:
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...ex-fuel-sensor
My point is I think it's possible there could be a Continental model, or similar that has a different calibration. When I bought my new one, I went cheap. I didn't buy from Innovate, Zeitronix etc, but I bought from a GM parts supplier just to make sure it was calibrated correctly, instead of buying off Ebay. I know it's probably a long, long shot to get the wrong calibration, but I think it could be possible.
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...ex-fuel-sensor
My point is I think it's possible there could be a Continental model, or similar that has a different calibration. When I bought my new one, I went cheap. I didn't buy from Innovate, Zeitronix etc, but I bought from a GM parts supplier just to make sure it was calibrated correctly, instead of buying off Ebay. I know it's probably a long, long shot to get the wrong calibration, but I think it could be possible.
innovate uses the same continental sensor all the others do.
Last edited by razorlab; Oct 31, 2016 at 05:15 PM.
#10
Edit: interesting enough, I just checked their website, and Continental makes a Biodiesel sensor that looks just like the ethanol sensor, and they make a unique calibration for Brazil. Again, I'm sure it's a long, long shot.
Last edited by Garth; Oct 31, 2016 at 05:33 PM. Reason: Content
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Another thing to keep in mind is how the the actual ECA is converting the continental hz output to voltage for the gauge/output.
all the continental sensors ouput in Hz, which is why you can't just purchase the sensor , you need a ECA to convert the signal to 0-5v.
If there is some error, I would probably put my bets on the ECA, not the continental sensor.
all the continental sensors ouput in Hz, which is why you can't just purchase the sensor , you need a ECA to convert the signal to 0-5v.
If there is some error, I would probably put my bets on the ECA, not the continental sensor.
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