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Old Aug 31, 2011, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptord
If you have a cat, back-fires like you're looking for will destroy it pretty quick. More importantly, the increased EGT of having combustion taking place in the engine AND in the exhaust can decrease the lifespan of the turbo.
is that all because i dont have a cat i have a full straight pipe into a Espiller JGT 500 Muffler. and im not sure how long i am going to stay stock turbo but mine is in pretty good condition. say i wanted to tell my tuner exactly what kind of twostep i am looking for what would u say AFR's around what? and what kind of timing? or is it easy enough to do myself?
Old Aug 31, 2011, 03:41 PM
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You shouldn't need launch maps on a stock turbo, I build 10psi at 5k rpm on mine with just the stock 2-step, which is plenty to get out of the hole at the drag strip.

Anyways, I haven't played around with them much myself so I don't know what AFR would be good. Timing would need to be in the negatives, probably below -10 if you want flames. There are a few examples of launch maps in here, check those out to get an idea of what you'd be doing.

Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for any damages incurred to your car from tuning it to shoot flames on the 2-step.
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Originally Posted by Raptord
You shouldn't need launch maps on a stock turbo, I build 10psi at 5k rpm on mine with just the stock 2-step, which is plenty to get out of the hole at the drag strip.

Anyways, I haven't played around with them much myself so I don't know what AFR would be good. Timing would need to be in the negatives, probably below -10 if you want flames. There are a few examples of launch maps in here, check those out to get an idea of what you'd be doing.

Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for any damages incurred to your car from tuning it to shoot flames on the 2-step.
So I know why anti lag hurts turbos but y would this? And is there a way to setup like 2 2steps? Kinda like how u can switch tune maps?
Old Aug 31, 2011, 06:04 PM
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You're causing combustion events to take place right in front of the turbo; it's going to take a beating. It's the same concept as anti-lag.
Old Sep 30, 2011, 07:44 AM
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Launch maps have 2 settings to fulfill before being utilized--tps and speed. Does it matter what gear?

Let's say I have it set to 80% tps and 20mph. If I'm in 2nd gear and both requirements are met, does it switch me back to the launch maps?
Old Sep 30, 2011, 07:54 AM
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it doesn't check gear.

What I wanted todo was change the speed trigger to a clutch trigger..

that way you could use the launch maps as antilag maps (sorta)

dunno how well it would work, but the idea was there
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Ah ok. My thinking was that I could use launch maps as a de-tuned 1st gear map, so I can still use my stock clutch to launch with. My 420whp can hold fine while driving, it just can't on the launch.
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what about gear based boost control...
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That's a good idea, but I think the path inevitably leads me to a new clutch, regardless
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Gear-based boost control should atleast help keep your stocker alive. Either way though, launching 400+whp on a stock clutch is bound to end badly eventually And if you already have too much power for the stock clutch on launch, don't use launch maps, you'll just have even more torque from the added boost.
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Originally Posted by Thoe99
Ah ok. My thinking was that I could use launch maps as a de-tuned 1st gear map, so I can still use my stock clutch to launch with. My 420whp can hold fine while driving, it just can't on the launch.
How does your car not hold in 1st but 3rd and 4th? Higher gears generate more power so usually slip way worse.
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Originally Posted by project_skyline
How does your car not hold in 1st but 3rd and 4th? Higher gears generate more power so usually slip way worse.
He's talking about launching.
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only building 1psi with a 2.4 with 6765 stock head ... wtf
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Originally Posted by lp_ceo
only building 1psi with a 2.4 with 6765 stock head ... wtf
What do your launch maps look like?
Old Oct 4, 2011, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lp_ceo
only building 1psi with a 2.4 with 6765 stock head ... wtf
thats crazy! i get 14psi easy on a stock turbo

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