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Old Oct 14, 2011, 08:34 PM
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Requested Torque/Throttle Ramp Rate Tables
A thread on EXF has spurred me to post this information.

These maps control how fast the Requested Torque and therefore TPS will ramp up to the target depending on what sort of vehicle you drive.

ie there is a map for Manuals (5MT) and 3 maps for SST (which related to the 3 modes, Normal, Sport, SSPORT)

These will be making their way into COBB AP asap as well

But in the mean time please test these carefully

2008 USDM X - 5268/5269:
Code:
<scaling name="Percent" units="%" toexpr="x*100/255" frexpr="x*255/100" format="%.1f" min="0" max="100" inc="2" storagetype="uint8" endian="big"/>
<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST Normal Mode" category="Torque" address="5f4dd" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="622ec" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="62678" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f4a5" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="622ec" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="62678" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST S-SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f46d" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="622ec" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="62678" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - 5MT" category="Torque" address="5f435" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="622ec" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="62678" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>
2008/2009/2011 AUDM/EDM X - 53040010/53050009:
Code:
<scaling name="Percent" units="%" toexpr="x*100/255" frexpr="x*255/100" format="%.1f" min="0" max="100" inc="2" storagetype="uint8" endian="big"/>
<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST Normal Mode" category="Torque" address="5f519" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62328" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="626b6" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f4e1" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62328" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="626b6" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST S-SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f4a9" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62328" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="626b6" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - 5MT" category="Torque" address="5f471" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62328" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="626b6" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>
2010 USDM RA - 55590007:
Code:
<scaling name="Percent" units="%" toexpr="x*100/255" frexpr="x*255/100" format="%.1f" min="0" max="100" inc="2" storagetype="uint8" endian="big"/>
<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST Normal Mode" category="Torque" address="5f5c7" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62544" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="628d2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f58f" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62544" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="628d2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST S-SPORT" category="Torque" address="5f557" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62544" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="628d2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>
2011 AUDM/EDM X - 56910007/56920006:
Code:
<scaling name="Percent" units="%" toexpr="x*100/255" frexpr="x*255/100" format="%.1f" min="0" max="100" inc="2" storagetype="uint8" endian="big"/>
<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST Normal Mode" category="Torque" address="5f853" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62ce8" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="63088" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table> 

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f81b" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62ce8" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="63088" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table> 

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST S-SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f7e3" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62ce8" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="63088" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table> 

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - 5MT" category="Torque" address="5f7ab" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62ce8" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="63088" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table>
2010 USDM X - 55570006/55580006:
Code:
<scaling name="Percent" units="%" toexpr="x*100/255" frexpr="x*255/100" format="%.1f" min="0" max="100" inc="2" storagetype="uint8" endian="big"/>
<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST Normal Mode" category="Torque" address="5f5c7" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62544" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="628d2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f58f" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62544" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="628d2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - SST S-SPORT Mode" category="Torque" address="5f557" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62544" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="628d2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>
	
<table name="Requested Torque Ramp Rate - 5MT" category="Torque" address="5f51f" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62544" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="628d2" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table>
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Awesome. Thanks.

What about the Throttle requested Torque Subtractor Percent map?
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thank you tephra! we appreciate all that you do!
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Originally Posted by chetrickerman
Awesome. Thanks.

What about the Throttle requested Torque Subtractor Percent map?
that can be another thread...
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Thanks, nice work
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Thanks - I'll do the Ralliart Table Dance. Which doesn't involve beer and strippers. Unfortunately.

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oh I remembered I had Bryan's ROM already done - so I posted 55590007
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Is this different than the 1st gear limiter? Can you explain this more so i can have my tuner run this on my SE.
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Here is the definition for 5692(0006) that I made some time ago with Tephra's help:
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<table name="Throttle Ramp Rate - SST Normal Mode" category="Throttle" address="5f853" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
    <table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62ce8" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
    <table name="RevPerMPH" address="63088" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table> 
<table name="Throttle Ramp Rate - SST SPORT Mode" category="Throttle" address="5f81b" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
    <table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62ce8" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
    <table name="RevPerMPH" address="63088" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table> 
<table name="Throttle Ramp Rate - SST S-SPORT Mode" category="Throttle" address="5f7e3" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
    <table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62ce8" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
    <table name="RevPerMPH" address="63088" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table> 
<table name="Throttle Ramp Rate - 5MT" category="Throttle" address="5f7ab" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent"> 
    <table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62ce8" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/> 
    <table name="RevPerMPH" address="63088" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/> 
</table>
Before today those tables were named "Mode Engagement" and were in the SST category. I just manipulated my definitions using a text editor. I hope they will work out of the box.
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Originally Posted by Evod350z
Is this different than the 1st gear limiter? Can you explain this more so i can have my tuner run this on my SE.
The limiters are just that - an upper limit.

These maps control how fast the throttle will reach the target.

Sometimes its desirable for the throttle to open a bit slower than the user is requesting. Ie Low Gear/Low Speed...
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I just went back an double checked the code, and these maps actually control how fast the ECU will ramp the requested torque output.

This of course goes into the Throttle decision process, so directly these will control the Throttle.

But I thought I would point it out just incase

I might rename them to "Requested Torque/Throttle Ramp Rate..."
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In 53040007 case I'm getting something that does not look like right data. Can you please take a look on that?

Requested Torque/Throttle Ramp Rate Tables-throttle.jpg

I have used xml quoted below.

Originally Posted by tephra

5304/5305:
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<scaling name="Percent" units="%" toexpr="x*100/255" frexpr="x*255/100" format="%.1f" min="0" max="100" inc="2" storagetype="uint8" endian="big"/>
<table name="Throttle Ramp Rate - SST Normal Mode" category="Throttle" address="5f519" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62328" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="626b6" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Throttle Ramp Rate - SST SPORT Mode" category="Throttle" address="5f4e1" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62328" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="626b6" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Throttle Ramp Rate - SST S-SPORT Mode" category="Throttle" address="5f4a9" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62328" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="626b6" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>

<table name="Throttle Ramp Rate - 5MT" category="Throttle" address="5f471" type="3D" swapxy="true" scaling="Percent">
	<table name="VehicleSpeed" address="62328" type="X Axis" elements="6" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>
	<table name="RevPerMPH" address="626b6" type="Y Axis" elements="8" scaling="RPMPerMPH"/>
</table>
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can you post the 5MT one for 55570006 please? =)
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