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Old Oct 22, 2011, 12:17 AM
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Post your E70 and E85 fuel/timing maps

Hi Guys,

I am going to add flexfuel to V3 (yes a bit premature) but I need to get some data about map differences between say E70 and E85.

So if you are tuned for both please post up

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Can't you just modify the fuel injector scaler depending on an inline ethanol sensor?

I suppose you could have 2 timing maps and use a % of each depending on ethanol %.


I don't have the E70 / E85 info for my car. My gas station uses E80 all year round.

I have said maps for a couple of customer cars, but I don't know if I should post that.
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nah I have a method already... but yeh I need to see some examples of E70 (or whatever) vs E85 (or whatever) form the same car...
Old Oct 22, 2011, 11:26 PM
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sorry, only have E85
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I love where this is going!
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Me too! The only reason I have never gone e85 is because I DD my car and don't want to get stuck somewhere without an e85 station nearby. Flexfuel would be awesome!
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^ you can run my tephraxmod and have a e85 map and an pump map...
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Originally Posted by tephra
^ you can run my tephraxmod and have a e85 map and an pump map...
That's my plan soon as there is tephramod for the 2011's
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I will have this next spring but my car hasn't seen E85 ever...its always broken when E85 comes around lol.
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few people (if any) out there really know what they are getting (in the USA) at least.

I have seen stickers say "Min 70% EtOH", "Min 69% EtOH" and "Min 85% EtOH"

likewise, I do not switch/tweak maps with suspected seasonal blend changes (obviously I keep an eye on things, but my tune is conservative and I have yet to run into any issue)

that being said, I do have a GM EtOH content sensor and would be happy to help in this endeavor in any way I can.
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Great idea, here in Europe quite big differences between 2 E85 fuel station
also would be a great future for evo 8-9 v7 roms too !
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i have a gm eth content sensor. all the e85 stations i've used pump the same blend year round (76% for one station and 82% for the others), but by virtue of dilution with pump gas, i've run 60% eth a few times. i did a few logs and observed a half point richer afr and no increase in knock. i didn't retune timing to see if the lower eth had somehow pushed me past mbt, but i can say that my e85 tune felt great on 60% eth.
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I don't think fuel would have changed your MBT point.


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