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Forced Performance Zero results are in! Test subject: EVO IX 2.4LR R2 Cams 93 & E85

Old Oct 30, 2014, 09:37 PM
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Well this makes things interesting http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...tegory_Code=SP

Seems like FP runs a sale on there old school turbos as soon as Tom posts up results from there new one. Ah the beauty of free marketing. Anyway someone with a 2.0 buy this turbo already.

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Old Oct 31, 2014, 03:28 AM
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Were you brake boosting? AFR looks like it was brake boosting.

Either way, not bad. Still not a fan of some of these stock appearing turbos for 700+. Reminds me of the old DSM days, we have better options now for the money.

IMO the FP sale right now with the FP Black/manifold/oil line combo is a winner.

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800awhp on a stock appearing turbo.......... meh ;D
Old Oct 31, 2014, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ZanarkO
Well this makes things interesting http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...tegory_Code=SP

Seems like FP runs a sale on there old school turbos as soon as Tom posts up results from there new one. Ah the beauty of free marketing. Anyway someone with a 2.0 buy this turbo already.
That FP bundle has been going on for over a month
Old Oct 31, 2014, 07:07 AM
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Great work Tom!

BTW we got Zero's on the shelf ready to ship and if you e-mail me I'll even make you a deal on one

- Michael
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I'm most interested in a comparison from Black to Zero on the same car.
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Originally Posted by fantrman
I'm most interested in a comparison from Black to Zero on the same car.
How about I make you a killer deal on a Zero and you tell us

- Michael
Old Oct 31, 2014, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fantrman
I'm most interested in a comparison from Black to Zero on the same car.
Same here.
Old Oct 31, 2014, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fantrman
I'm most interested in a comparison from Black to Zero on the same car.
He had a BB black on the car that tom tuned before he switched to the Zero.

Numbers on it can be found on toms (TSCOMPTUNED) facebook page.

I have a zero as well that'll be going on my stock 2.0 shortblock. For a street car a stroker or 2.4L is the way to go.
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Wow this thing is making more power than 5leeper 6466. i realize that more boost was ran but not enough for a 100 horses. This turbo cant be better than a 6466.
Old Oct 31, 2014, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael @ FP
Great work Tom!

BTW we got Zero's on the shelf ready to ship and if you e-mail me I'll even make you a deal on one

- Michael
Any word on that O2/dp solution you mentioned you guys were working on?
Old Oct 31, 2014, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by W2J
would you be able to do a Black / zero comparison?
There is one on 93oct of this car. I just didn't overlay anything yet.
Originally Posted by Evo8Master
I would love to see some dyno vids
I didn't think to ask to get tach videos of the car during tuning (tuned on the street). If we can find a dynojet it will be going on it. I'm hoping to see about 820ish in 3rd on the real dyno.

Originally Posted by Evo8Master
Yeah would love to see numbers on a 2.0 motor
I'm sure ill tune this on a 2.0L and share it for you. If I was doing this on a 2.0L id probably have the boost around 45psi depending on the setup.

Originally Posted by SiriusEvo
Were you brake boosting? AFR looks like it was brake boosting.

Either way, not bad. Still not a fan of some of these stock appearing turbos for 700+. Reminds me of the old DSM days, we have better options now for the money.

IMO the FP sale right now with the FP Black/manifold/oil line combo is a winner.
No the customer was not brake boosting. Thanks for the compliment though . I was also surprised by the spool curve in 4th. Its all about the setup. His setup is very responsive and spools real nice.

Originally Posted by Michael @ FP
Great work Tom!

BTW we got Zero's on the shelf ready to ship and if you e-mail me I'll even make you a deal on one

- Michael
Thanks Michael! Badass turbo for sure! I think the Zero should stand for Zero competition

Originally Posted by fantrman
I'm most interested in a comparison from Black to Zero on the same car.
Well get one then. Lets get it done!

Originally Posted by Michael @ FP
How about I make you a killer deal on a Zero and you tell us

- Michael
I hope he takes you up on that offer. I'm all for it!

Originally Posted by J_Heath
He had a BB black on the car that tom tuned before he switched to the Zero.

Numbers on it can be found on toms (TSCOMPTUNED) facebook page.

I have a zero as well that'll be going on my stock 2.0 shortblock. For a street car a stroker or 2.4L is the way to go.
Ya it is posted on here also. Just have to dig for it. Thanks J_Heath

Originally Posted by RLLN247
Wow this thing is making more power than 5leeper 6466. i realize that more boost was ran but not enough for a 100 horses. This turbo cant be better than a 6466.
5leepers car has a restriction. I make the same power he makes with 8psi less boost. I suspect its the small runners on his manifold hurting top end.
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Originally Posted by RLLN247
Wow this thing is making more power than 5leeper 6466. i realize that more boost was ran but not enough for a 100 horses. This turbo cant be better than a 6466.
5leeper made 715@36psi. This car made 605 @32 PSI. At 44psi this car touched 800. Doing the math 5leeper gaining the same power per PSI as this car (15hp/psi) would gain around 120whp at 44psi. So that would be 835ish. Now that is no small accomplishment for the Zero to be in anywhere colder to the level of the 6466. But I think pound for pound the 6466 has the advantage up top and the Zero has a spool advantage.
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So what is this turbo comparing to ? 35r ?
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Originally Posted by batty200
5leeper made 715@36psi. This car made 605 @32 PSI. At 44psi this car touched 800. Doing the math 5leeper gaining the same power per PSI as this car (15hp/psi) would gain around 120whp at 44psi. So that would be 835ish. Now that is no small accomplishment for the Zero to be in anywhere colder to the level of the 6466. But I think pound for pound the 6466 has the advantage up top and the Zero has a spool advantage.
that sounds like a fair assumption. i just cant fathom how this turbo is spooling and making power. im sure this would still make full boost before a 6466 up to 40psi. the 6466 will take you further thats forsure. I doubt this turbo can handle 50psi, but i could be wrong.

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