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Old Jun 12, 2016, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
LOL. GTFO. Small, fast spooling, turbo making 600+ running an 11.0 in a full weight car that can be driven anywhere and is a pleasure to do it in. This car should be the benchmark for anyone looking to build to the perfect all around EVO.

How do I know this? My car has the same turbo and is almost at the same point Abacus's car is, and I absolutely love it. mrfred's car is also simulate with a built 2.0 and CBRD BBK-3B turbo. Fast spool and ~550-600whp is where it's arms for having the most fun possible in these cars.
I agree with you totally , this car is the definition of a fun street car.
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Originally Posted by ctfpevoVIII
I agree with you totally , this car is the definition of a fun street car.
seen other full weight cars do high 10s with less power. I dont care for dyno queens. Power is there but yeah you guys could be right the fd could be hurting the car. I want low 11 on a full weight red with less power.

Thing should trap in the mid 130
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Originally Posted by evo8vz
seen other full weight cars do high 10s with less power. I dont care for dyno queens. Power is there but yeah you guys could be right the fd could be hurting the car. I want low 11 on a full weight red with less power.

Thing should trap in the mid 130
You're aware the car's 4.11 gearing is affecting traps and times, right?

If you look at his old times with the stock gearing on the car, they're better.
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Originally Posted by evo8vz
seen other full weight cars do high 10s with less power. I dont care for dyno queens. Power is there but yeah you guys could be right the fd could be hurting the car. I want low 11 on a full weight red with less power.

Thing should trap in the mid 130
I think his car can still pull off a high 10 and if he was still running the stock gearing he would have no problem at all.
Old Jun 13, 2016, 08:16 AM
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I'll put in my vote for a sweet setup. As letsgetthisdone said, gotta love the powerband and power levels.
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Originally Posted by Erik@MIL.SPEC
You're aware the car's 4.11 gearing is affecting traps and times, right?

If you look at his old times with the stock gearing on the car, they're better.
i was going to do a 4.1 fd but am staying away now.

i notice he does roll racing too so maybe he doesnt care about drag too much.
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The 4.11fd hurts the car as far as outright acceleration goes, especially in the 1/4 mile from a stop. I had it in my car and went back to stock after 3 months..
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Originally Posted by evo8vz
seen other full weight cars do high 10s with less power. I dont care for dyno queens. Power is there but yeah you guys could be right the fd could be hurting the car. I want low 11 on a full weight red with less power.

Thing should trap in the mid 130
First and foremost, I built this car for myself and no one else. My goals were to build a car with near stock characteristics and good power. Here are a few things that I did for ME that would hurt the cars performance in a straight line.

#1 ACT 6 puck sprung clutch ME2-HDG6 (heavy duty not extreme) I know a triple disk or quartermaster would net me a 1.5 60ft and allow all the power to be put down but I'd rather have a quiet streetable clutch instead of some rattle trap thats hard to drive. I've valeted my car and let my GF drive it multiple times with zero issues. My current clutch will slip over 10psi on the launch as I've proven before.

#2 Ten percent taller Final drive (4.11) When I was on stock turbo (350whp pump gas) I went from the stock 4.53FD and Evo 9 gearing to an RSP built 4.11 evo 8 geared trans. Within two weeks my 1/4 mile time went from 12.3@113 to 12.9@107. I lost half a second and 6mph. The car has proven to be slower with the 4.11FD . We all now the Evo was built for the rally rather then the road. With the stock gearing you are in 5th at 37mph.. The 4.11 makes it very nice to just drive around town and more importantly focus on driving the road course instead of the constant gear changes. I can cruise on the highway a 80mph/3200 and get over 20mpg on E85. I've driven the car all over the state of Florida.

#3 2.75" Version 1 Tomei downpipe with full Tomei Exhaust, The car would pick up power with a 02 dump but I'm not interested in the noise. IMO the current system is a great balance of power and performance.

Always look at the facts before jumping to a conclusion. I could care less about drag racing. The Evo wasn't built for just going fast in a straight line. Once you get past 600-700whp the fun factor and reliability go down with clutches and huge turbo's that let Susie the soccer mom blow your doors off light to light in her Toyota Sienna minivan.

As far as being a dyno queen goes. I have one of the best tuners in the country and my car has a broad powerband not the typical hail mary spike and fall. It also drives extremely well with a standalone ecu. I don't know where you got being a dyno queen since I run the car at the drag strip, 1/2 mile,Auto x AND the road course numerous times a year. I have plenty of videos showing the fun that I've had with this car on my youtube channel. I've got hours of track time and abuse on this car with zero issues.

Looking at the facts over the years there have been a few cars with the factory final drive/FP RED and a sticky tire going low/mid tens at 133-135mph. Those cars had weight reduction, small 150lb guys, a multiplate clutch and leaving on all the boost. I have zero interest in changing my car to run what the "internet" thinks it should run.

I'm only going to own this car one time so I want it to be the most reliable, easy to drive and fun as possible.

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Old Jun 13, 2016, 12:42 PM
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that doesn't care about 1/4 mile times and huge hp numbers on this forum. My car is setup in a similar ilk; although not nearly as nice as your's Abacus, I just want to be able to get in it and drive whereever, whenever without any worry and enough power to have fun.
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Originally Posted by schuhie
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that doesn't care about 1/4 mile times and huge hp numbers on this forum. My car is setup in a similar ilk; although not nearly as nice as your's Abacus, I just want to be able to get in it and drive whereever, whenever without any worry and enough power to have fun.
my car is full interior and has ac

does low 11 and with pump gas no ethanol or race gas

very similar build to this but have lower dyno numbers andno race gas
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Huh?

Originally Posted by evo8vz
my car is full interior and has ac

does low 11 and with pump gas no ethanol or race gas

very similar build to this but have lower dyno numbers andno race gas
Originally Posted by schuhie
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that doesn't care about 1/4 mile times and huge hp numbers on this forum. My car is setup in a similar ilk; although not nearly as nice as your's Abacus, I just want to be able to get in it and drive whereever, whenever without any worry and enough power to have fun.
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Originally Posted by evo8vz
my car is full interior and has ac

does low 11 and with pump gas no ethanol or race gas

very similar build to this but have lower dyno numbers andno race gas
You really don't understand the whole "street tires, single disk clutch, and 4.11fd"
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Originally Posted by evo8vz
does low 11 and with pump gas no ethanol or race gas
You have the OEM FD, right? (STOCK = 4.529:1)

Maybe something is getting lost in translation, but this is important:


Originally Posted by Abacus
I went from the stock 4.53FD and Evo 9 gearing to an RSP built 4.11 evo 8 geared trans. Within two weeks my 1/4 mile time went from 12.3@113 to 12.9@107. I lost half a second and 6mph.

So, perhaps you should add 6mph and take .5 off his 1/4 times and then you'll be happy



Originally Posted by Abacus
Knowing that the ACT 6 puck wouldn't hold a 20psi launch I set the limiter to 5500 @8-10 psi. I left and went a 1.8 60ft and ran a 11.2@129 . I got back in line to run again and left the same but slipped the clutch a tad more and went 1.7 60ft and flat shifted 3rd/4th and went 11.0@129.9.
New numbers: 10.5@135.9

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I mentioned that the FD could be the issue. I have stock everything in my gearbox thought about doing the 4.1 FD. I had a comp stage 4 clutch and just got q QM.

Well thanks you just saved me a lot of money.
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Originally Posted by evo8vz
I mentioned that the FD could be the issue. I have stock everything in my gearbox thought about doing the 4.1 FD. I had a comp stage 4 clutch and just got q QM.

Well thanks you just saved me a lot of money.
We told you straight up the FD was the "issue" lol

For cruising/DD and on the track, the FD makes sense for a stoker motor.

If you are looking for 1/4 times, the OEM FD is what you're looking for


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