Electrical Gremlins - symptoms and how to fix
#33
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If you're experiencing any electrical issues the first thing I recommend to check are the plugs down in the driver's footwell as pictured on the previous page. I checked mine last weekend just to make sure they were in good shape and then sealed up the grommet with some silicone to make sure a problem never occurs.
#36
I don't doubt it mine wouldnt shut off. I had to disconnect the battery
Actually I think I just pulled the fuse in the Fuse Block under the hood.
On my car the connectors at that junction got so bad they started sparking and everything HAHAHAHA. I had to even cut wire back some to get to fresh wire again.
All good probably 60k since
Actually I think I just pulled the fuse in the Fuse Block under the hood.
On my car the connectors at that junction got so bad they started sparking and everything HAHAHAHA. I had to even cut wire back some to get to fresh wire again.
All good probably 60k since
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#37
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i just hit the dimmer control/general area sort of hard and it works again lol.
when friends ask "what are you doing" i just say "nothing" everyone thinks i'm weird now. lol j/k
i think there is something wrong at or around/behind my interier dimer control/headlight adjustment area as both switches are finnicky.
start from there or any of the other suggested points and you'll narrow it down.
when friends ask "what are you doing" i just say "nothing" everyone thinks i'm weird now. lol j/k
i think there is something wrong at or around/behind my interier dimer control/headlight adjustment area as both switches are finnicky.
start from there or any of the other suggested points and you'll narrow it down.
#38
yea i have tried everything. checked and replaced all fuses. moved around all my relays. checked all lights. nothing is blown. i havent tried hitting the dimmer wheel but i have taken it out it has not burn marks and it is getting power too the switch. so i am thinking bad switch or corroded plug. it is so annoying. thanks for the help guys
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So it rained badly in raleigh, and next thing u see is my SRS light kicked in, i saw this thread and many others so i went ahead and checked the plugs behind the driver's side kick panel, behind the fuses, there were two connectors next to eachother, i checked them and they were clean. checked the rest of the wiring for possibily evidence, and no leaks to be found. i looked inside the engine bay by the steering column (below it) where there is a harness going through a groumet, and no corrosion or leaks to be found. my car has almost 19k miles on it. any other possibilities that i might be running into?
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Do your wipers have a mind of their own?
Are your headlight, parking lights, dash lights, or you tail lights not turning off or flickering?
Does your horn stay on?
Car not turn off?
You may be a victim of the "Rain Gremlins"
Don't worry help is here. Heres what happened and what you need to fixt it
- Wire Cutters
- Wire Strippers
- Shrink Tubes
- A trusty Solder Gun
- Silicone (To seal the grommet DUH)
OK reach down by your left leg you'll see a drivers kick panel, take that off. Ok now you see a bunch of plugs in a big white bracket thingy. Well thats a junction linking Dash and column functions to the fuse panel under the hood.
Well guess what??? That harness goes through a grommet in the inner fender out to the fuse block under the hood and What do you know? The seal is crap. So when it rains water gets through the grommet, runs down the harness, and seats it self nicely on the exposed pins in those previously mentioned connectors. No need to explain what water and electrical pins do. They get corroded and make for a hek of a flakey connection. Chances are you see a bunch of green corosion there huh.
So now you get to carefully one by one cut each wire on the front and back of the connectors and hard solder them all together.
Guess what you have no more electrical issues.
Don't forget to seal your grommets up with some silicone
If you end up with you SES (Airbag) light on. Which has happened to a couple of us cause guess what that circuit is part of the harness as well. You'll need to simply get it reset (Hint try a body shop they usually have a scanner to talk to the SES ECU Mitsu charges like 120 to hook it up)
Thanks scheides for the awesome pics
Here you can see where the harness comes through the inner fender and into the cabin of the car.
Connector notice the green that's corrosion baby
What you'll be left with once a connector is bypassed. Yes the wire is the same color on both sides (IIRC)
I soldered all my connections but here is the same effect and will work just as well
Seal up those grommets pic of grommet from outside behind the fender lining
Below are a bunch of threads with the same issue. With some pics for you visual people
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=313115, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=323568, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=248587, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=265344, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=323096, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...=1#post5255451, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=323435
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ater+corrosion
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=326088
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...05#post5609105
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=368107
I have helped many through this issue already and there is sure to be many more in time to come.
If any members have any questions or require more clarification please feel free to PM me
Thanks Admins and Mods
Are your headlight, parking lights, dash lights, or you tail lights not turning off or flickering?
Does your horn stay on?
Car not turn off?
You may be a victim of the "Rain Gremlins"
Don't worry help is here. Heres what happened and what you need to fixt it
- Wire Cutters
- Wire Strippers
- Shrink Tubes
- A trusty Solder Gun
- Silicone (To seal the grommet DUH)
OK reach down by your left leg you'll see a drivers kick panel, take that off. Ok now you see a bunch of plugs in a big white bracket thingy. Well thats a junction linking Dash and column functions to the fuse panel under the hood.
Well guess what??? That harness goes through a grommet in the inner fender out to the fuse block under the hood and What do you know? The seal is crap. So when it rains water gets through the grommet, runs down the harness, and seats it self nicely on the exposed pins in those previously mentioned connectors. No need to explain what water and electrical pins do. They get corroded and make for a hek of a flakey connection. Chances are you see a bunch of green corosion there huh.
So now you get to carefully one by one cut each wire on the front and back of the connectors and hard solder them all together.
Guess what you have no more electrical issues.
Don't forget to seal your grommets up with some silicone
If you end up with you SES (Airbag) light on. Which has happened to a couple of us cause guess what that circuit is part of the harness as well. You'll need to simply get it reset (Hint try a body shop they usually have a scanner to talk to the SES ECU Mitsu charges like 120 to hook it up)
Thanks scheides for the awesome pics
Here you can see where the harness comes through the inner fender and into the cabin of the car.
Connector notice the green that's corrosion baby
What you'll be left with once a connector is bypassed. Yes the wire is the same color on both sides (IIRC)
I soldered all my connections but here is the same effect and will work just as well
Seal up those grommets pic of grommet from outside behind the fender lining
Below are a bunch of threads with the same issue. With some pics for you visual people
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=313115, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=323568, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=248587, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=265344, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=323096, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...=1#post5255451, https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=323435
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ater+corrosion
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=326088
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...05#post5609105
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=368107
I have helped many through this issue already and there is sure to be many more in time to come.
If any members have any questions or require more clarification please feel free to PM me
Thanks Admins and Mods
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hey guys, i'm having all sorts of problems with my car..
it won't start, when it does it won't turn off, can't turn the windsheild wipers off, turn signals don't work all the time and sometimes they just come on, headlights go out, tailights go out and flicker....
i figured this was the culprit after checking the relays and fuses...
so is there some kind of connector cleaner we can buy instead of straight wiring? I would much rather do that because I don't have the time to cut, strip, and solder all of those wires right now
it won't start, when it does it won't turn off, can't turn the windsheild wipers off, turn signals don't work all the time and sometimes they just come on, headlights go out, tailights go out and flicker....
i figured this was the culprit after checking the relays and fuses...
so is there some kind of connector cleaner we can buy instead of straight wiring? I would much rather do that because I don't have the time to cut, strip, and solder all of those wires right now
#44
Yea you have the gremlin man.
I tried doing the cleaner thing on my car but there was just too much corrosion it was actually eating the wire. Some I had to cut back a bit in order to expose clean uncorroded wire to solder.
I say do it right the first time but you can try to use electronics cleaner. Make sure to seal the grommit or cleaning is worthless.
I tried doing the cleaner thing on my car but there was just too much corrosion it was actually eating the wire. Some I had to cut back a bit in order to expose clean uncorroded wire to solder.
I say do it right the first time but you can try to use electronics cleaner. Make sure to seal the grommit or cleaning is worthless.
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sounds good. its really frustrating and mines probably really bad cause this all started after i drove through salty water one night so the salt will have probably eaten through the wire more than just water would have.. :/
its alright, i'll get it worked out somehow, plus now I'll have more legroom for my cage I guess?
its alright, i'll get it worked out somehow, plus now I'll have more legroom for my cage I guess?