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Old Nov 28, 2009, 09:41 AM
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Time to change spark plugs... AGAIN?

I recently took out my spark plugs because the car was running like **** and sputtered when I put my foot on the and misfiring really bad. I took out the spark plugs and to no surprise they were in horrible condition.

I bought some NGK spark plugs from advance and it was running beautifully for about a month. Now it's doing it again... and I don't know if it's because the spark plugs I bought suck or because something is causing the spark plugs to go bad so quick.
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Sounds like there is something wrong, like running rich, lean, oil in the chamber, etc. causing it to foul the plugs so quickly.
Refer to this:
http://www.pdm-racing.com/features/plugs.html
Old Nov 28, 2009, 10:13 AM
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Yea I've seen this chart before.. I guess the only thing left to do is pull the plugs and see the condition it's in. Anything I should be looking for other than the condition it's in once I take it out?
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i don't know about most on the site, I changed my plugs every oil change...

doesn't mean that something isn't right but I also used meth inj as well.

is it just one plug? all plugs?

what color are they, black / white

what fuel are you using? stupid question I know, gap right?
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Originally Posted by 2003lancerevo8
i don't know about most on the site, I changed my plugs every oil change...

doesn't mean that something isn't right but I also used meth inj as well.

is it just one plug? all plugs?

what color are they, black / white

what fuel are you using? stupid question I know, gap right?
Plugs every oil change what a waste of money.
Old Nov 28, 2009, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ak47po
Plugs every oil change what a waste of money.
most 8 owners use the cheaper copper plugs that are a few dollars if that piece and versus 9 owners not having anything but iridium to choose from

benefit of iridium is obviously they last significantly longer
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Well,

im glad you think so

once again reading is key, aparently you do not use meth injection?!

if you look at my build, I was not using cheap o plugs but I just found out that meth likes to eat plugs so it was just a habit I got myself into. I didn't recommend to him he needs to do it, it was something I got into a habit of. I know I could have went another oil change on them but what the heck right

I also had an aggressive tune and running 30lbs of boost daily maxing out my setup

I was okay with spending the money on spark plugs to not have any issues
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Have the car tuned for Iriduims, in a colder range. I ran coppers for a year, and went back to Iridiums. The driveability is much better, and they do last longer if you are daily driving the car.
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Copper plugs are fine. Its all we use. If your fuel trims are off you can foul plugs frequently though.
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Originally Posted by ak47po
Plugs every oil change what a waste of money.
Ugh.. sorry I know I'm kinda late just been really busy with school and work. Uhm they're white irridiums and they come pre-gapped. I just got the ones advance carried because the ones that were in before were so bad not sure of the specs but I think the heat range was the same too.

I made another observation today though. It doesn't happen in 1st or 4th gear. I haven't had enough space to try it in 5th but apparently its just 3rd and 2nd. Could that mean anything?
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Do you know what the model number of the plugs you used is along with the manufacturer? Also do you have an viii or an ix? Lastly I know some people say not to gap the iridiums but I would. Use a feeler gauge and just be careful not to damage the tip.
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DONT gap iridium. You can check gap very carefully with a gauge though.

Is your car tuned? Maybe you have a horrible tune?

I'm not sure if a bad cam angle sensor could affect some of this?
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You can gap iridium plugs. Just have to be careful. If the gap is too large, lightly tap the plug on a metal surface, I use a socket. If the gap it too small, carefully open it up with a pair of pliers.
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They're NGK spark plugs and have an Evo VIII. I called Advanced and they told me they were '3106' NGK plugs. Anything on these?
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Originally Posted by guapoholic
They're NGK spark plugs and have an Evo VIII. I called Advanced and they told me they were '3106' NGK plugs. Anything on these?
What i use and always keep on hand because they are $6 for a set locally.
http://www.sparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=bpr8es

What they told you to buy.
http://www.sparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=3106


However depending on your power upgrades, you may not need the plug I suggested.

Stock equivalent in Copper is a BPR7ES.
http://www.sparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=bpr7es

What are the mods? Anyway you can get a nice "Macro" picture of the plugs?


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