Going ghetto Garrett - KAMAK
#46
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cool to see other in the past using these billet 20G's and 9 blade turbines. I recently built myself a 20G also. but i came from a T3 forward facing setup and wanted to stick with it so i got a Kinugawa T3 in/V band out turbine housing in 8cm for a td05h, and used a 7 blade KTS 20G compressor we'll in a anti surge compressor housing, and a ( blade td05H turbine. bought both wheels, CHRA and bearing kit from Turbo lab. Made 538whp @29 PSI e85 and 457whp @24 psi pump gas, on a dyno jet. wanted more but was blowing my waste gate open. will be getting a stiffer spring for next year and seeing what 35-38 psi will do. links to my build and results:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...rbo-build.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...85-513whp.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...6-dynojet.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...rbo-build.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...85-513whp.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...6-dynojet.html
#47
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EvoIX89,
I was looking at that (taiwan) surge cover when I put this turbo together, but was unsure if 1.) I would need it to prevent surge and 2.) on the evo x - would it clear the exhaust manifold. Turns out with the GTX style (11-blade) compressor I have no surge issues whatsoever, and that is with a base wastegate spring (turbosmart) set at 21psi! The super slick synapse bov might be part of that (not surging), but all I know is that it never has even occurred. I love this turbo so much, I have considered sending it for a BB upgrade (Owens Development). That would make a super fast spooling turbo even more fun I imagine (I have never owned a BB turbo honestly). Please do post your results as you crank the boost up into the 30's !
~Jaraxle
I was looking at that (taiwan) surge cover when I put this turbo together, but was unsure if 1.) I would need it to prevent surge and 2.) on the evo x - would it clear the exhaust manifold. Turns out with the GTX style (11-blade) compressor I have no surge issues whatsoever, and that is with a base wastegate spring (turbosmart) set at 21psi! The super slick synapse bov might be part of that (not surging), but all I know is that it never has even occurred. I love this turbo so much, I have considered sending it for a BB upgrade (Owens Development). That would make a super fast spooling turbo even more fun I imagine (I have never owned a BB turbo honestly). Please do post your results as you crank the boost up into the 30's !
~Jaraxle
#48
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EvoIX89,
I was looking at that (taiwan) surge cover when I put this turbo together, but was unsure if 1.) I would need it to prevent surge and 2.) on the evo x - would it clear the exhaust manifold. Turns out with the GTX style (11-blade) compressor I have no surge issues whatsoever, and that is with a base wastegate spring (turbosmart) set at 21psi! The super slick synapse bov might be part of that (not surging), but all I know is that it never has even occurred. I love this turbo so much, I have considered sending it for a BB upgrade (Owens Development). That would make a super fast spooling turbo even more fun I imagine (I have never owned a BB turbo honestly). Please do post your results as you crank the boost up into the 30's !
~Jaraxle
I was looking at that (taiwan) surge cover when I put this turbo together, but was unsure if 1.) I would need it to prevent surge and 2.) on the evo x - would it clear the exhaust manifold. Turns out with the GTX style (11-blade) compressor I have no surge issues whatsoever, and that is with a base wastegate spring (turbosmart) set at 21psi! The super slick synapse bov might be part of that (not surging), but all I know is that it never has even occurred. I love this turbo so much, I have considered sending it for a BB upgrade (Owens Development). That would make a super fast spooling turbo even more fun I imagine (I have never owned a BB turbo honestly). Please do post your results as you crank the boost up into the 30's !
~Jaraxle
#50
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I don't know of anyone in USA that does it (BB conversion on MHI CHRA). There isn't any data that I know of for this turbo setup on the EVO, which is why I made this entire thread. Other than you, I haven't even seen or heard of anyone running the 9-blade TD05 and a billet 20g (11 blade or 7+7). Those are some crazy numbers that you reported.
~Jaraxle
~Jaraxle
#51
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I don't know of anyone in USA that does it (BB conversion on MHI CHRA). There isn't any data that I know of for this turbo setup on the EVO, which is why I made this entire thread. Other than you, I haven't even seen or heard of anyone running the 9-blade TD05 and a billet 20g (11 blade or 7+7). Those are some crazy numbers that you reported.
~Jaraxle
~Jaraxle
#52
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@EvoIX89
The numbers listed for your 20G runs:
Billet 20G - 457whp 362wtq 93 octane 24 psi
……………………..513whp 411wtq e85 26 psi
……………………..538whp 446wtq e85 29 psi
What turbine was that again? TD06SL2 STS 9-blade ? That kind of power wasn't made through the TD05H STS 9 blade was it ?
~Jaraxle
The numbers listed for your 20G runs:
Billet 20G - 457whp 362wtq 93 octane 24 psi
……………………..513whp 411wtq e85 26 psi
……………………..538whp 446wtq e85 29 psi
What turbine was that again? TD06SL2 STS 9-blade ? That kind of power wasn't made through the TD05H STS 9 blade was it ?
~Jaraxle
#53
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@EvoIX89
The numbers listed for your 20G runs:
Billet 20G - 457whp 362wtq 93 octane 24 psi
……………………..513whp 411wtq e85 26 psi
……………………..538whp 446wtq e85 29 psi
What turbine was that again? TD06SL2 STS 9-blade ? That kind of power wasn't made through the TD05H STS 9 blade was it ?
~Jaraxle
The numbers listed for your 20G runs:
Billet 20G - 457whp 362wtq 93 octane 24 psi
……………………..513whp 411wtq e85 26 psi
……………………..538whp 446wtq e85 29 psi
What turbine was that again? TD06SL2 STS 9-blade ? That kind of power wasn't made through the TD05H STS 9 blade was it ?
~Jaraxle
#54
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So i decided to take my 20G apart, since my whole car is apart for a 5 speed swap, and many other upgrades, just to measure all the tolerances and inspect the wear on the bearings at 4-500 miles. Keep in mind i bought everything component balanced, and just threw it together, everything was just about brand new by the looks of it. also wanted to show that it was a TD05H 9 blade turbine. pretty crazy power to squeeze through a 49mm hole.
#55
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13 months later (again)
It has been ANOTHER year since my last post above. I drive it everyday to work and back, and try not to thrash on it everyday. I know this is a sample of one, but I have never seen a Kinugawa based turbo post that had such a long durability report with positive results. As every year, it also received several 1/4 track runs.
I stopped tuning it last June, because I was literally just constantly fiddling. So I went over half a year without even touching the tune without any issues. I just recently changed the tune to get just a bit more power. I am now running it at 28psi and it is insane.
Peace!
~Jaraxle
I stopped tuning it last June, because I was literally just constantly fiddling. So I went over half a year without even touching the tune without any issues. I just recently changed the tune to get just a bit more power. I am now running it at 28psi and it is insane.
Peace!
~Jaraxle
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#60
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For street/autocross setup the 9 blade TD05 (STS) spools super quick but doesn't choke the top end as much as the MHI 12 blade. I was most surprised that despite the quick spool and high flowing 11 blade billet wheel, I never have encountered compressor surge. Not once!
~Jaraxle
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