Anyone use the FP Xona Rotor turbos yet?
Sep 17, 2015, 04:06 PM
#32
I'm really surprised noT a lot of people have tried these turbos yet. I'm going T3 this month and TPG Tuning here in Pittsburgh has a 7164 DBB sitting on the shelf, 4 bolt T3 flange .85 I'll be picking up this week. Hope to have hot parts soon too. I'm really excited to see what it'll do. I just sold my FP red, that I was Making 486whp on 93 octane with a mustang dyno. I'm expecting 500 on pump with the 7164 and we'll see what she can do on E85.
Now the hard part is comparing it to a 6062GEN2 or possibly a 6262...
Sep 22, 2015, 06:37 PM
#36
Just ordered my Sheepey Forward facing T3 hot parts kit today. So I won't hit the dyno with my 7164 fro about a month or so. But with the setup in my Sig below, it should be a nice 500+whp on 93 octane, and then we'll turn it up to 30-35 psi on E85. Expecting a good bit over 600 on E85.
Sep 23, 2015, 09:39 AM
#37
forcedperformance yes or not ...
I am deeply disappointed with the technical support offered by the manufacturer.I had great confidence in the company that produced the HTA model.
I used and recommended, HTA turbines.
I contacted www.forcedperformance.net, to purchase a turbine HTA35R A / R82.
They told me that was out of production and is equivalent Xona Rotor, 71-64, with hosing Tial A / R 0.82.
Living in Europe I ordered their turbine from UK seller, www.owendevelopments.co.uk. It took long to order, because we have not received proforma, all deadlines were overcome and gave term after term, but eventually I got proforma, and then I paid and had to wait a month or more. Do not answer the phone, e-mail does not answer or said next week , the contact was free a week ... I hardly got the turbine without any professional specification, some numbers thrown between three rows words exist on their web page.
Do not say turbines are not good but I have not had the courage to mount on the car.
I tried to get the correct information from the manufacturer of the part or from Owen but behaves as if it sells pacifiers for babies.
How are selling a turbine and not give documentation that helps me to use it correctly and efficiently? I want turbine map, Compressors map, islands of efficiency...Am I asking for too much ? Wrong thinking?
Garrett provides for each turbine these technical specifications with graphics related https://turbobygarrett.com/turbobyga...arger#GTX3582R
Last edited by Malaxa; Sep 23, 2015 at 09:43 AM.
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Sep 23, 2015, 10:27 AM
#38
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Compressor maps are usually used to select a turbo. You already selected a turbo. Bolt it up and make boost..
Sep 23, 2015, 06:46 PM
#39
Pretty sure FP doesn't release their compressor maps. Just the compressor and turbine wheel dimensions and flow rate. And their turbos out peform the other companies equivalents. I understand your concern and waiting that long does sound rough, but I'm sure that turbo will do exactly wait you want. I was told the same when I bought my 7164, that it's a 35r size turbo. And using the specs they provide, it has a 35r compressor wheel and a turbine that is bigger than a 35r. While also using the new HTZ comp wheel design. just bolt her on and post some results!
Sep 23, 2015, 07:18 PM
#40
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FP never sold compressor maps, but neither do Precision, HKS, GReddy and many aftermarket turbo manufacturers so it's not too shocking. Garrett even revised some of their compressor maps a few years ago without changing their compressor wheel design, go figure.
Watching for results tends to be one of the better ways of gauging what to expect in many cases, and I've seen not see any useful information about how they perform - such as a proper dyno sheet/boost curve etc, and also keen to hear after they've been out for some time if they are more reliable than the bolt on Mitsi turbos seem to have been.
Watching for results tends to be one of the better ways of gauging what to expect in many cases, and I've seen not see any useful information about how they perform - such as a proper dyno sheet/boost curve etc, and also keen to hear after they've been out for some time if they are more reliable than the bolt on Mitsi turbos seem to have been.
Sep 23, 2015, 09:24 PM
#41
turbine & copressor maps
Producers and the project is not difficult to provide accurate technical data.
The FP said they were working on these charts, but still not available.
So far I have not seen any chart obtained by this turbine and conditions to achieve this result.
The FP said they were working on these charts, but still not available.
So far I have not seen any chart obtained by this turbine and conditions to achieve this result.
Oct 2, 2015, 04:25 PM
#43
Just placed order today for Xona 6156! HTA86 is just too damn much for the daily/autox/road course. I should have some interesting results as I've got a fully built 2.2 with all the supporting mods.
The 6156 is a 61lb min turbo...similar to FP Red but .82 and Tial v-band.
The 6156 is a 61lb min turbo...similar to FP Red but .82 and Tial v-band.
Oct 2, 2015, 07:39 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by ridenrunwv
Have they made any stock frame turbos with this wheel and MHI housing?
