Most accurate dyno?? - evolutionm.net
evolutionm.net - Home of the Lancer Evolution
Home Features Community Marketplace Registry Garage Store

Go Back   evolutionm.net > Lancer Evolution 1-9 Forums > Evo General
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search


Evo General Discuss any generalized technical Evo related topics that may not fit into the other forums. Please do not post tech and rumor threads here.

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Jul 23, 2008, 02:42 PM   #1
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: (6)
Garage is empty, add now
 
Srt4...'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: MI
Posts: 184

Drives: 2003 RR GSR

Most accurate dyno??

I'm at the point where i need to get my evo tuned. About to throw on a etc ic and bushcar lower piping. Was curious which dyno ( dynojet, dynopack, mustang dyno...) would provide the most accurate numbers. Also I' located in detroit mi and trying to decide between ams or buschar for tuning... they are about the same distance. Which would you guys recommend for the best value and cost
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 02:45 PM   #2
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (90)
Garage is empty, add now
 
inco9nito99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Roselle, IL
Posts: 1,915

Drives: '08 CBR 600RR "Graffiti"/'99 Maroon GSX/SOLD: RR IX RS

Send a message via AIM to inco9nito99
If you really want an answer to this question, Mustang Dyno. BUT the most efficient way of knowing if a certain mod made a diff is to stick with one dyno so you can see actual gains with a reference point.
__________________
◄◄◄ KUNiiiZZZEEE ►►►
...it's my NICKNAME!

"OCD isn't a disease..it's a lifestyle" -revvin9k
"...faith in KARMA" -me.

FS: Engine/Driveline/Turbo/Electronics:
http://forums.evolutionm.net/sale-en...ml#post9533241
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 02:48 PM   #3
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: (0)
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Naples,FL
Posts: 305

Drives: Mitsu. Evolution IX MR

dynojet, although, its been awhile and i could be wrong. i'm pretty sure dynojet can be, or are, chassis dynos which measure actual power put to the pavement.

as for accuracy, either can be accurate because a dyno's main purpose is as a tool used for tuning, and to gauge the difference in power/torque from adding different parts, or changing varibles within the tune.

going from one type of dyno to another can be misleading becuase each reads power input differently.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 02:50 PM   #4
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (6)
Garage is empty, add now
 
Johnboy1065's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Knoxville Tennessee
Posts: 1,272

Drives: Lancer Evolution VIII

Send a message via ICQ to Johnboy1065 Send a message via AIM to Johnboy1065
mustang dyno, it's a load bearing dyno that simulates the road better than a dynojet.
__________________
Buschur Tuned 550+ WHP on 93 Octane!
2.3 Liter Stroker, Buschur Front facing turbo kit w/HTA 3586R, Buschur Stage 3 Head w/BF 272 Cams, Driven Innovations Intake manifold, Buschur Race Core Intercooler, Buschur Dual walbro 255LPH in-tank fuel pump assembly, Buschur dual stage boost controller.

For Sale Air conditioning parts!! http://forums.evolutionm.net/sale-pa...ning-pump.html
For sale MAF sensor!!! http://forums.evolutionm.net/sale-en...af-sensor.html
For Sale Silver OEM EVO 8 Spoiler http://forums.evolutionm.net/sale-in...l#post10154244
For Sale HKS DLI II Igntion Amplifier http://forums.evolutionm.net/sale-en...amplifier.html
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 03:00 PM   #5
Account Disabled
Personal Sales Rating: (0)
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Bel Air, MD
Posts: 1,206

Drives: 06 TB EVO IX SE

Send a message via AIM to Shacochis06
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnboy1065 View Post
mustang dyno, it's a load bearing dyno that simulates the road better than a dynojet.
+1 on a load bearing dyno...you can get tuned on a dynojet but once u start driving it on the street its a diffrent story
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 03:02 PM   #6
BBS
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (18)
Garage is empty, add now
 
BBS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,337

Drives: IX MR, E60 M5, EG6 Civic

But if the operator is a devious piece of **** then it really doesn't matter what dyno you use.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 03:06 PM   #7
Gold Sponsor
Personal Sales Rating: (42)
Garage is empty, add now
 
AutoMotoSports's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: West Chicago, IL
Posts: 6,134

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i

its not as much the dyno as it is the operator and how it is setup and more importantly how good the tuner is.

this could turn into a HUGE flame war on a topic like this but for arguments sake dont look at the tool as much as the person whom is using it. Make your decision off of that.

We always take a car out on the street after we tune it to make sure there are no changes.....there rarely are but we still always do it.

Eric
__________________
Email
www.amsperformance.com
847-709-0530
  • Worlds first 9,8, and 7 sec Nissan GT-R
  • 2009 AMS Racing 60+ Victories & 4 National Championships
  • 2009 Redline Time Attack Unlimited & Modified AWD Champions
  • World's Highest HP EVO 4-9 - 1142 AWHP 8.42 ET
  • Now offering products & services for Porsche, GT-R, BMW & Audi

Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 03:13 PM   #8
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (3)
Garage is empty, add now
 
Tnnrx7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: IL
Posts: 1,211

Drives: 06 TB Evo IX SE

Quote:
Originally Posted by AutoMotoSports View Post
its not as much the dyno as it is the operator and how it is setup and more importantly how good the tuner is.

this could turn into a HUGE flame war on a topic like this but for arguments sake dont look at the tool as much as the person whom is using it. Make your decision off of that.

We always take a car out on the street after we tune it to make sure there are no changes.....there rarely are but we still always do it.

Eric
Thats the way to do it.

The dyno puts a "false" simulation on the tires amongst other things, and just the environment being compared to being on the street.

Thats why I prefer a street tune, plus it's cheaper, but Dyno tunes are great as well...specially to get your numbers.
__________________
2006 Evo IX SE

-AMS TBE w/ TP-
-WORKS Drop-IN-
-Walbro 255-
Kuniiizzzeee Dial-IN!

Need help with your Evo?
Visit EvoGarage.net today!

XBOX LIVE: EvOwNeD
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 04:40 PM   #9
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (16)
Garage is empty, add now
 
EvoJoeIX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,570

Drives: 2006 Evo IX MR

what do you mean most accurate?
most accurate for what?

every dyno is different. its just how it is. all you need to know is the difference in power you make( tuned pull- baseline).

what is weird and what always confused me is horsepower and torque are calculated by mathmatical formulas. how come every dyno calculates them different? i made a topic on that very long ago, and no one could ever answer it. no one knew
__________________
Evo IX MR
Buschur Built and Tuned

My Evo
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 06:09 PM   #10
Former Sponsor
Personal Sales Rating: (2)
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Windsor, CT
Posts: 274

Drives: Evo IX, Every Subaru under the Sun!

Send a message via AIM to ECS Performance
Quote:
Originally Posted by AutoMotoSports View Post
its not as much the dyno as it is the operator and how it is setup and more importantly how good the tuner is.

this could turn into a HUGE flame war on a topic like this but for arguments sake dont look at the tool as much as the person whom is using it. Make your decision off of that.

We always take a car out on the street after we tune it to make sure there are no changes.....there rarely are but we still always do it.

Eric
Well said Eric. I see too many people arguing over "low"/"high" numbers when, in reality, it's all relative. A dyno is a tool, it's as simple as that. What's important to us, is the change in numbers after a vehicle is tuned. Even then, it's still important to do a road test. There are numerous variables involved in producing the final numbers and, therefore, said numbers aren't always accurate. For example, we were tuning a WRX the other day on a DynaPack and noticed that the numbers seemed a bit low. After speaking with the shop owner/dyno operator we determined that the humidity setting on the dyno was wrong. We changed the setting, and picked up 20 AWHP on the next run...no changes to the tune.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 07:29 PM   #11
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (11)
Garage is empty, add now
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain
Posts: 602

Drives: something that goes 190mph, yet gets 35mpg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Srt4... View Post
I'm at the point where i need to get my evo tuned. About to throw on a etc ic and bushcar lower piping. Was curious which dyno ( dynojet, dynopack, mustang dyno...) would provide the most accurate numbers.
If this transaltes to "which one will show the most power"?..I can't help you. As a dyno owner, and trained/certified operator, I can tell you that pretty much all the prominent dynos are accurate. I believe it's Factory that uses different computation, and therefore reads much lower than Dynojet for instance, but it's still "Accurate". Poor maintenance on the other hand, can make a huge difference and give inconsistent reads.
Peak numbers are bull****. For charting power, the "gain" is the only relevant number. You baseline you car, then you go back to the same dyno every time you make a change. The increase (or decrease) should be your only concern, and the only way it's accurate, is if it's from the same dyno
__________________
Yes there is such a thing as a Stupid Question
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 07:33 PM   #12
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (32)
Garage is empty, add now
 
xiaoni420's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: PottsVegas, PA
Posts: 1,675

Drives: '13 E92 M3, '10 CBR1000rr

Send a message via AIM to xiaoni420
Quote:
Originally Posted by BBS View Post
But if the operator is a devious piece of **** then it really doesn't matter what dyno you use.
So true.
__________________
ExtremeTurboSystems
www.extremeturbosystems.com
360-263-3748[/LEFT]
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Jul 23, 2008, 07:33 PM
EvolutionM
Mitsubishi Lancer




Paid Advertisement
 
 
 
Reply


Tags
accurate, acurate, bearing, dynamometer, dyno, dynos, dynp, evo, knoxville, load, mustang, pa, philadelphia, srt4, tuner

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


 









All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All Passwords