Fair price for an Evo IX MR nowadays?
Sep 24, 2016, 12:01 AM
#19
Sep 25, 2016, 06:37 PM
#23
everything made perfect sense until you threw in the Subaru monkey wrench comment into it
to any person seeking a CT9A Evo in mint condition, a Subie is probly the last thing on their "other cars to consider"
why would anyone want an STi with that crap engine... I've had two of them.. until they put a new motor in the STi forget it.
I agree that on the upper price you said though, but to me $24k is on the high end I would pay for a mint Evo... say under 70k miles, no accidents, no extensive mods and garaged kept with no rust. As close to stock Evo to me is worth more than any modded car no matter how much money the current owner has put into it... that is why I do not get cars out there for sale that are heavily modded for upper 20s to low 30s prices.
to any person seeking a CT9A Evo in mint condition, a Subie is probly the last thing on their "other cars to consider"
why would anyone want an STi with that crap engine... I've had two of them.. until they put a new motor in the STi forget it.
I agree that on the upper price you said though, but to me $24k is on the high end I would pay for a mint Evo... say under 70k miles, no accidents, no extensive mods and garaged kept with no rust. As close to stock Evo to me is worth more than any modded car no matter how much money the current owner has put into it... that is why I do not get cars out there for sale that are heavily modded for upper 20s to low 30s prices.
Sep 25, 2016, 08:50 PM
#24
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Congrats, you got a pretty good deal. I'm the original owner of my bone stock IX SE with 98k miles, and I wouldn't have sold mine for that much. Good for you!
Sep 26, 2016, 06:43 AM
#25
Crap? No. The EJ25 is not a crap engine. In fact it is a very balanced engine that does exactly what was intended and holds power well. It may be more expensive to build than the 4g63 forklift motor that has been around since Jimmy Carter was in office but to call it a **** motor is straight ignorance.
sorry to go off topic I owned two Subarus (07 STi, 05 WRX) like many here before ever owning an Evo. And I experienced it first hand. 07 is apparently when the issues started as the GD models prior to 07 did not have this problem. My 07 had a terrible stock tune with bad hesitation issues that plagued that year of STI, I did a Cobb AP somewhat resolved the issue. I did not want to deal with having to do a full build because of the cost so I sold the car and bought an 05 WRX, never had issues with it but I ran an AP with a full COBB turboback.
I am not sure what your background is or you are aware of the history with Subies, but it is a well known and documented issue still plaguing the STi. Had two local friends with 08 Hatch STis which both had their motors fail due to the broken ringlands. STOCK motors. Reputable Subie shops have narrowed down the issue to the weak pistons in the car and lean stock tune from the factory due to the emissions standards from 07 and on, so automatically any owner has to mod their car or risk the motor popping. Threads from IWSTI and from NASIOC out of half dozen that you can just google. So please don't call people ignorant when there are clear facts that the engine has major issues. The new WRX has the newer motor and apparently is doing fine but time will tell. I am curious as to what Subaru will put into the next STi as I am sure they will finally change the motor.
The 4g63 is old for a reason... it is proven, well built, that can take mods easily. It is not even a comparison. You throw bolt ons on any STI without considering a tune and you are def asking for the motor to pop.
The sad part is folks in their own community try to defend the cause of the issue yet some of them just accept it. Sorry again for the off topic comment OP.
BTW I just finalized a deal for a IX RS. So happy coming back to CT9A Platform
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1632634
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2-5-lite...re-subaru.html
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/warranty...ew-11-sti.html
http://www.blackbearsti.com/Wordpres...land-failures/
Here is a thread from a reputable Subie shop that clearly states the weakness in the stock EJ internals from 07+ years. They still try and defend and call the motor balanced.. but to who..? to the average consumer that will op not do a full rebuild to have a reliable car? or the small percentage of enthusiasts and have the budget and dump 5 to 10k on a car to have it made "reliable" on top of paying $35k for the car
http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...s-engine-tech/
The bottom line it still requires a significant amount of investment costly to the average consumer. So to call it balanced, is very subjective.
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