EBC Red v. EBC Yellow Review
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EBC Red v. EBC Yellow Review
I wanted to share my thoughts and finding so far comparing these two pads. Differences in the pads is where the meat of the heat ranges are. You will notice that the MOT of the Reds is 1400*F and the Yellows is 1750*F. Not a big difference right? Well wrong. The Reds work best below their MOT, where as, the Yellows work best in their upper temperature ranges. The sacrifice between the two would be cold bite. The Reds have more bite on cold stops, but the Yellows can take more and more hard stops (aka HPDE events).
Car: 2002 Ford Focus SVT
Weight: ~2950 lbs w/driver
Uses: DD, AX, HPDE
Tires: Street - Goodyear Eagle GT | Race: Nitto NT01
Fluid: Amsoil DOT4
Rotors: PowerSlot Slotted Cyro Rotors
Ducts: GT3 Air glides
EBC Red: DP31641C - Front, DP31218C - Rear
EBC Yellow: DP41641R - Front, DP41218R - Rear
EBC Red
EBC RedStuff: 200-1400F, .50 drag coefficient
Impressions:
These have been fantastic on my car. I installed these fresh when I bought the car last summer. The car saw a half dozen autocross events on the Eagle GT tires and about 30k miles this year.
These pads where on the the full year. In the last winter, the car saw many cold days. Pads had near instant cold bite. Never did I have to wonder "hey, going to bite today?".
Noise - none. No squeal, no whine.
Cleaning of wheels - almost none existent.
Before a wash (good 4-6 weeks between proper washes):
After:
Racing:
I was able to get some autocross runs on May 8th at Winged Warrior on my r-comps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5lNXhm9NVY
I could go deep into the turns before braking, lot has to do with the tire, but also the brakes. Their bite is very positive and linear (read controllable with good modulation). No dust on rims, they are still clean.
EBC Yellow
EBC YellowStuff: 300-1750F, intermediate to high torque
Impressions:
So far with ~200 street miles on this pads, I have noticed some decrease in cold bite. However, once warm, these have lots of bite. The sort of bite that will pull your face off...and this is on street tires.
Noise - none. Yes, none. These are racing pads. On my Evo, I ran Hawk HT10 pads, and could you hear me coming. Sounded like a train stopping. Absolutely fantastic track pad. But not to be driven on the street.
Cleaning - some dust on my wheels now, but its mostly from the break-in material that EBC coats the pads with. I will update this after I re-clean my rims and drive for a while. Notice, my race rims are white, should be easy to see the dust, if there is any.
Racing:
Will be updating after my COM event Monday, May 31st.
UPDATE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftwb7gU08O8
Temp: 88F outside, 70% humidity.
Track: NH Motor Speedway, 1.6 miles, no down time, short straights.
Braking was fantastic. I was able to go very deep into the turns before braking. Carrying lots of my speed. Zero fade all day. No squeal either. And almost no dust. Rotors look good. Not groved or checkered.
Car: 2002 Ford Focus SVT
Weight: ~2950 lbs w/driver
Uses: DD, AX, HPDE
Tires: Street - Goodyear Eagle GT | Race: Nitto NT01
Fluid: Amsoil DOT4
Rotors: PowerSlot Slotted Cyro Rotors
Ducts: GT3 Air glides
EBC Red: DP31641C - Front, DP31218C - Rear
EBC Yellow: DP41641R - Front, DP41218R - Rear
EBC Red
EBC RedStuff: 200-1400F, .50 drag coefficient
Impressions:
These have been fantastic on my car. I installed these fresh when I bought the car last summer. The car saw a half dozen autocross events on the Eagle GT tires and about 30k miles this year.
These pads where on the the full year. In the last winter, the car saw many cold days. Pads had near instant cold bite. Never did I have to wonder "hey, going to bite today?".
Noise - none. No squeal, no whine.
Cleaning of wheels - almost none existent.
Before a wash (good 4-6 weeks between proper washes):
After:
Racing:
I was able to get some autocross runs on May 8th at Winged Warrior on my r-comps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5lNXhm9NVY
I could go deep into the turns before braking, lot has to do with the tire, but also the brakes. Their bite is very positive and linear (read controllable with good modulation). No dust on rims, they are still clean.
EBC Yellow
EBC YellowStuff: 300-1750F, intermediate to high torque
Impressions:
So far with ~200 street miles on this pads, I have noticed some decrease in cold bite. However, once warm, these have lots of bite. The sort of bite that will pull your face off...and this is on street tires.
Noise - none. Yes, none. These are racing pads. On my Evo, I ran Hawk HT10 pads, and could you hear me coming. Sounded like a train stopping. Absolutely fantastic track pad. But not to be driven on the street.
Cleaning - some dust on my wheels now, but its mostly from the break-in material that EBC coats the pads with. I will update this after I re-clean my rims and drive for a while. Notice, my race rims are white, should be easy to see the dust, if there is any.
Racing:
Will be updating after my COM event Monday, May 31st.
UPDATE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftwb7gU08O8
Temp: 88F outside, 70% humidity.
Track: NH Motor Speedway, 1.6 miles, no down time, short straights.
Braking was fantastic. I was able to go very deep into the turns before braking. Carrying lots of my speed. Zero fade all day. No squeal either. And almost no dust. Rotors look good. Not groved or checkered.
Last edited by Smike; Jun 1, 2010 at 06:52 AM.
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I have read alot of your posts in the past, where you recommend a street pad for the street and a race pad for the track. I noticed in your review of the yellow pads you said they are "not to be driven on the street." In your opinion, would this hold true for the reds also?
Reds are their high performance street pads. Great for autocross.
Ill be swapping back to the front Reds after this event.
Last edited by Smike; May 23, 2010 at 03:24 PM.
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I used high temp silicone brake grease, which I've always used with great results. Now that I think of it though, I didn't grease the pins or the holes that the pins slide through... I can't imagine that resulting in this much noise though...
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