HKS RS Coilovers installed...professional advice needed
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HKS RS Coilovers installed...professional advice needed
I just installed these RS HIPERMAX Coilovers. I have a big problem. The car rolls way more feels like a cadilac. I have them set at the stiffest settings.
They feel real soft. And when I set them soft they feel like a 79 caddy with blown struts.
I have not corner balaned these yet or I have not gotten alignment. I kbow the alignment will make th ecar feel better but why is the car rolling so much? Is it the lack of alignment?
Or do you think I need like bigger sway bars or something?
What else could I do to eliminate roll?
They feel real soft. And when I set them soft they feel like a 79 caddy with blown struts.
I have not corner balaned these yet or I have not gotten alignment. I kbow the alignment will make th ecar feel better but why is the car rolling so much? Is it the lack of alignment?
Or do you think I need like bigger sway bars or something?
What else could I do to eliminate roll?
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excessive rear toe out will make a car want to spin and very unstable. while doing so though it won't be subjected to any more or less bodyroll than is determined by the springs and swaybars.
what are the spring rates? I did more than my fair share of goggling, considering I have no intent to purchase and just wanted to see if I could help you, and I found nothing. I sincerely hope you knew what the spring rates were before ordering...
what are the spring rates? I did more than my fair share of goggling, considering I have no intent to purchase and just wanted to see if I could help you, and I found nothing. I sincerely hope you knew what the spring rates were before ordering...
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the spring rates are as follows
HKS Hypermax RS....336lbs(6.0K)fronts.....280lbs(5.0k rear
Stock(USDM):..........180lbs(3.2k)fronts....225lbs (4.0k rear
So they are definetly stiffer
Y this is happening I dont know??
HKS Hypermax RS....336lbs(6.0K)fronts.....280lbs(5.0k rear
Stock(USDM):..........180lbs(3.2k)fronts....225lbs (4.0k rear
So they are definetly stiffer
Y this is happening I dont know??
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Originally Posted by ColinL
excessive rear toe out will make a car want to spin and very unstable. while doing so though it won't be subjected to any more or less bodyroll than is determined by the springs and swaybars.
what are the spring rates? I did more than my fair share of goggling, considering I have no intent to purchase and just wanted to see if I could help you, and I found nothing. I sincerely hope you knew what the spring rates were before ordering...
what are the spring rates? I did more than my fair share of goggling, considering I have no intent to purchase and just wanted to see if I could help you, and I found nothing. I sincerely hope you knew what the spring rates were before ordering...
Not allignment settings.
Do really thick swaybars help out alot in the roll department or marginally?
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Do you know if the springs are progressive rate? I haven't done any research on the HKS Hypermax RS, but if the springs were progressive the could easily feel softer than stock and need a bit of roll and/or dive to reach their higher spring rates.
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Originally Posted by erioshi
Do you know if the springs are progressive rate? I haven't done any research on the HKS Hypermax RS, but if the springs were progressive the could easily feel softer than stock and need a bit of roll and/or dive to reach their higher spring rates.
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Originally Posted by value
That's the "tuned for the US market everyone was talking about" ?? But seriously get your alignment done setup first then see how they feel.
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man i'm sorry this happened to you... turbo magazine put those coilovers on their project evo and said that the role was drastically reduced... I say get an alignment and go from there. Good luck
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Another quick question, did you lower the front and rear the same amount, or did you lower the front more to even out the fender well gap?
If you lowered the front more, more weight would now be riding on your front ends, and even more yet when you were braking and turning.
Oh, if you did lower the car equally, how far did you lower it?
If you lowered the front more, more weight would now be riding on your front ends, and even more yet when you were braking and turning.
Oh, if you did lower the car equally, how far did you lower it?
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Originally Posted by erioshi
Another quick question, did you lower the front and rear the same amount, or did you lower the front more to even out the fender well gap?
If you lowered the front more, more weight would now be riding on your front ends, and even more yet when you were braking and turning.
Oh, if you did lower the car equally, how far did you lower it?
If you lowered the front more, more weight would now be riding on your front ends, and even more yet when you were braking and turning.
Oh, if you did lower the car equally, how far did you lower it?
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I just called HKS and they said it should be soft but not like a caddy. They do however offer stiffer springs. Like 7k front 6k rear. Or even 8k front 7k rear. This will be a last resort but before that I will be going to http://www.selgp.com for them to look over my springs and testing the car out, alignment settings etc. they also told me corner balancing is not necessary unless you are a very competitive track racer.
Also HKS told me that the RS are almost identical to the Hypermax 2's
The valving they said is slightly different and the sprink rates are 1k higher all around. 7k front 6k rear vs 6k front 5k rear on the RS's
Also HKS told me that the RS are almost identical to the Hypermax 2's
The valving they said is slightly different and the sprink rates are 1k higher all around. 7k front 6k rear vs 6k front 5k rear on the RS's
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