Stock Fosgate Amp + aftermarket radio = WORKS!!!
Oct 4, 2008, 08:06 PM
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Stock Fosgate Amp + aftermarket radio = WORKS!!!
I just got a aftermarket radio to work with the factory Fosgate amp.
Here is a quick write up of how to do it:
This write up cover the non-nav system but it will work with both. Please read the hole thing before attempting this. And of course I take no responsibility for any problems you may have.
The stock amp uses the Can-Bus system to turn on the amp, control the amp, because of this I thought I could disassemble the factory head unit and use parts of it to keep the amp working but then splice in the new head unit speaker wires. Thats just what I did.
Unplug the front part of the radio from the dash. Its the small plug on the 4-way/airbag light button piece on the bottom of the radio face. Do not disassemble this yet.
Take out the four screws holding the radio box in the dash and unplug the two cables from the unit.
On the bigger connector (of the two) splice (DO NOT CUT) into the Red W/white wire and solder it to the constant 12 volt wire on the new radio harness.
Splice the black wire to the ground of the new radio harness.
Splice the yellow wire to the switch 12 volt wire (ignition) of new radio harness.
CUT the white wire to the front left + speaker wire and solder it to front left + the new radio harness.
CUT the black wire to the front left - speaker wire and solder it to front left - the new radio harness.
CUT the red wire to the front right + speaker wire and solder it to front right + the new radio harness.
CUT the green wire to the front right - speaker wire and solder it to front right + the new radio harness.
NOTE: the factory amp only gets the front left and right speaker wires going to it. The amp splits it up to front, rear, and sub.
I took apart the factory radio and removed/unplugged the six-disk changer in the top portion of the box. It was dead weight and not needed.
I carefully placed the factory radio into the hole deep in the dash behind the HVAC controls making sure the plugs were facing up. Make sure its snug and wont move around. Plug in both connectors to the factory radio. Now plug in the new radio connector. this is just to test and set up, you don’t need to mount it yet.
Turn the new radio on (ACC on ignition) so a CD or something is playing. If you have had the factory radio unplugged for more than 5 minuets you won’t hear any music. This is normal. Now plug the small connector (4-way/airbag light button piece on the bottom of the factory radio face) to the harness in the dash. Make sure the hole factory radio face is still connected to the 4-way/airbag light button piece. Push the power button on the factory radio face and turn the volume up. You should now hear you music.
First you need to set all settings in the factory head unit to the desired settings. I set the balance, treble, bass, etc to default because I want the new head unit to control that. You must set the volume to the max setting you want the new radio to have. Think of it this way, The main factory system volume will control the gain on the amp the new radio controls the volume between 0 and what ever you left the volume at of the factory radio.
Once that is set up unplug the factory radio face. You will find you need to unscrew and remove the 4-way/airbag light button piece on the bottom of the factory radio face and mount it on the new dash kit. Clean up your wires neatly and mount the radio in the dash. Plug in the 4-way/airbag light button piece and snap on the dash kit and your done.
Now here is the down side. If you disconnect the battery from the car the Fosgate amp will default to OFF. You would need to reconnect the little ribbon cable between the 4-way/airbag light button piece and the factory radio face you removed it from. Then press the power button to turn it on. Because of this I will remove the PC board from the radio face and mount it in a box behind the dash with a remote mounted button soldered into the power button spot on the PC board. That way if the battery gets disconnected I can reset it with a push of a hidden button.
Please post any questions you have, thanks and good luck.
Brian-
Finaly they came out with a real solution!
Thanks Boy36, he started a thead about the new Metra MITO-02. This allows you to use the stock amp with out my mod.
Heres the link:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...mito-02-a.html
Here is a quick write up of how to do it:
This write up cover the non-nav system but it will work with both. Please read the hole thing before attempting this. And of course I take no responsibility for any problems you may have.
The stock amp uses the Can-Bus system to turn on the amp, control the amp, because of this I thought I could disassemble the factory head unit and use parts of it to keep the amp working but then splice in the new head unit speaker wires. Thats just what I did.
Unplug the front part of the radio from the dash. Its the small plug on the 4-way/airbag light button piece on the bottom of the radio face. Do not disassemble this yet.
Take out the four screws holding the radio box in the dash and unplug the two cables from the unit.
On the bigger connector (of the two) splice (DO NOT CUT) into the Red W/white wire and solder it to the constant 12 volt wire on the new radio harness.
Splice the black wire to the ground of the new radio harness.
Splice the yellow wire to the switch 12 volt wire (ignition) of new radio harness.
CUT the white wire to the front left + speaker wire and solder it to front left + the new radio harness.
CUT the black wire to the front left - speaker wire and solder it to front left - the new radio harness.
CUT the red wire to the front right + speaker wire and solder it to front right + the new radio harness.
CUT the green wire to the front right - speaker wire and solder it to front right + the new radio harness.
NOTE: the factory amp only gets the front left and right speaker wires going to it. The amp splits it up to front, rear, and sub.
I took apart the factory radio and removed/unplugged the six-disk changer in the top portion of the box. It was dead weight and not needed.
I carefully placed the factory radio into the hole deep in the dash behind the HVAC controls making sure the plugs were facing up. Make sure its snug and wont move around. Plug in both connectors to the factory radio. Now plug in the new radio connector. this is just to test and set up, you don’t need to mount it yet.
Turn the new radio on (ACC on ignition) so a CD or something is playing. If you have had the factory radio unplugged for more than 5 minuets you won’t hear any music. This is normal. Now plug the small connector (4-way/airbag light button piece on the bottom of the factory radio face) to the harness in the dash. Make sure the hole factory radio face is still connected to the 4-way/airbag light button piece. Push the power button on the factory radio face and turn the volume up. You should now hear you music.
First you need to set all settings in the factory head unit to the desired settings. I set the balance, treble, bass, etc to default because I want the new head unit to control that. You must set the volume to the max setting you want the new radio to have. Think of it this way, The main factory system volume will control the gain on the amp the new radio controls the volume between 0 and what ever you left the volume at of the factory radio.
Once that is set up unplug the factory radio face. You will find you need to unscrew and remove the 4-way/airbag light button piece on the bottom of the factory radio face and mount it on the new dash kit. Clean up your wires neatly and mount the radio in the dash. Plug in the 4-way/airbag light button piece and snap on the dash kit and your done.
Now here is the down side. If you disconnect the battery from the car the Fosgate amp will default to OFF. You would need to reconnect the little ribbon cable between the 4-way/airbag light button piece and the factory radio face you removed it from. Then press the power button to turn it on. Because of this I will remove the PC board from the radio face and mount it in a box behind the dash with a remote mounted button soldered into the power button spot on the PC board. That way if the battery gets disconnected I can reset it with a push of a hidden button.
Please post any questions you have, thanks and good luck.
Brian-
Finaly they came out with a real solution!
Thanks Boy36, he started a thead about the new Metra MITO-02. This allows you to use the stock amp with out my mod.
Heres the link:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...mito-02-a.html
Last edited by strife; May 27, 2009 at 03:41 AM.
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I really want the full functionality. But since stock amp will only take stereo, I won't be able to get it even with an adaptor.
Oct 5, 2008, 11:22 AM
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@aviator79
It sounds as good as the stock head unit, not any better though.
@onesicklambo
Ya that does suck, you can only adjust the bass level on the EQ of the new radio.
But you can adjust all you amp settings during the set up part I spoke of. But you cant change it on the fly.
@XxLancerGTSxX
Yes, it should work, its the same wire harness and radio as the EVO.
It sounds as good as the stock head unit, not any better though.
@onesicklambo
Ya that does suck, you can only adjust the bass level on the EQ of the new radio.
But you can adjust all you amp settings during the set up part I spoke of. But you cant change it on the fly.
@XxLancerGTSxX
Yes, it should work, its the same wire harness and radio as the EVO.
Oct 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
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hello, i was reading your posts and maybe you could help me. I bought a navigation unit from a lancer and i want to install it in a 4runner. When i tried to install it i was able to make the display of the unit open, but the radio does not turn on. Any suggestions on what to do?
