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Old Mar 14, 2010, 07:47 AM
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Front O2 sensor voltage offset?

Hey guys, (Tephra specifically)

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I am running E-85 and would like to lean out my idle and cruise A/F ratio's for improved fuel economy. I could do this by changing my injector scaling a bunch more, so my STFT and LTFT's were maxed out and unable to change fueling... but a more elegant solution would be to change the voltage offset of the front O2 sensor by a small amount. This would lean out (or richen, depending on value entered) the fuel delivery any time the car is in closed loop operation, but it would still be able to compensate for weather changes etc with the fuel trims.

If anyone can figure this one out, much appreciated!

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Can this not be accomplished by tweaking the fuel maps?
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yeah but you would need to run openloop full time to get the same affect - which probably isn't advisable...

after thinking about this, I dont think you will be able to do what you want WITHOUT replacing the narrowband with a wideband.

mainly because the narrowband only detects stoich - so once you apply the offset it will run lean/rich and the narrowband will say that rather than stoich...

its a bit confusing, but I dont think it will work...
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Originally Posted by tephra
yeah but you would need to run openloop full time to get the same affect - which probably isn't advisable...

after thinking about this, I dont think you will be able to do what you want WITHOUT replacing the narrowband with a wideband.

mainly because the narrowband only detects stoich - so once you apply the offset it will run lean/rich and the narrowband will say that rather than stoich...

its a bit confusing, but I dont think it will work...
If you can give me the code I will test it out and let you know if it works or not.

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It would be interesting to run a WB and a value outside of stoich. I think better economy would be had around 15.2 afr, plus I would like to have my WB not jump around so much in open loop. I'll have to try this some day.
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i accomplished leaning out my idle by dialing in my LTFT as close to 0 as possible and then my car goes into open loop after my STFT are at 0. so i have my idle at 15.3
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Originally Posted by tephra
yeah but you would need to run openloop full time to get the same affect - which probably isn't advisable...
Understood, thanks.
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