Thoughts on MAP cast manifold
Oct 23, 2016, 01:41 PM
#16
Like I stated, I have definitely seen my share of cracked tubular manifolds in my time. I've worked with the guys with full race before they even were full race.
Most companies have a warranty against cracking, but be careful, some will void that warranty if you ceramic coat the manifold. Just a heads up. Have a good one. Good luck with your shopping.
Most companies have a warranty against cracking, but be careful, some will void that warranty if you ceramic coat the manifold. Just a heads up. Have a good one. Good luck with your shopping.
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Cloud0307 (Oct 25, 2016)
Oct 31, 2016, 05:44 PM
#20
If you like the way the Evo sounds, then get the MAP.
Tubular and more equal length will make the car sound higher pitched.
I hate the way the Evo sounds, so I've looked well into what's needed to change the sound. The MAP is what you want.
Tubular and more equal length will make the car sound higher pitched.
I hate the way the Evo sounds, so I've looked well into what's needed to change the sound. The MAP is what you want.
Nov 2, 2016, 01:59 PM
#22
No, I'm saying the MAP will suit YOU better, because it retains the stock engine exhaust note. Especially considering you like the ETS quiet. I have a Driven Fab single, and I'm a fan of ETS Extreme or Tomei, so opposite.
I don't like the deep flat sound the Evo makes stock. Infact most turbo 4 from factory all sound the same; a flat deep highly muffled tone that doesn't scream. Anything, 4B11, 4G63, 3SGTE, SR20, 1.8T, BPT, Hyundai Genesis (which is an evo motor LOL)anything, even a Honda with a log turbo manifold.
And the "engine exhaust note" tone is separate from the exhaust. My exhaust system sounds good, but my engine doesn't, if that makes sense. Your engine exhaust note is affected by many variables, engine size, compression ratio, cams, flow, overall CFM, manifolds, turbo, WG, ect. Your exhaust is just the actual turbo back (DP/Cat or TP/Catback). That's 2 different things.
You can change it at the engine side, or the exhaust side, or both. An ETS Extreme is going to be loud on any Evo, but the one on tubulars and big turbo is going to scream and be higher pitched. Whereas the one on stock log, or MAP is just simply going to be loud.
A tubular will get more of that 'raspy' sound. Which is what I like. I've actually ordered a MAP tubular V band kit with a 6266 and EWG and looking for big cams to get rid of that Evo sound, I want mine to scream.
I don't like the deep flat sound the Evo makes stock. Infact most turbo 4 from factory all sound the same; a flat deep highly muffled tone that doesn't scream. Anything, 4B11, 4G63, 3SGTE, SR20, 1.8T, BPT, Hyundai Genesis (which is an evo motor LOL)anything, even a Honda with a log turbo manifold.
And the "engine exhaust note" tone is separate from the exhaust. My exhaust system sounds good, but my engine doesn't, if that makes sense. Your engine exhaust note is affected by many variables, engine size, compression ratio, cams, flow, overall CFM, manifolds, turbo, WG, ect. Your exhaust is just the actual turbo back (DP/Cat or TP/Catback). That's 2 different things.
You can change it at the engine side, or the exhaust side, or both. An ETS Extreme is going to be loud on any Evo, but the one on tubulars and big turbo is going to scream and be higher pitched. Whereas the one on stock log, or MAP is just simply going to be loud.
A tubular will get more of that 'raspy' sound. Which is what I like. I've actually ordered a MAP tubular V band kit with a 6266 and EWG and looking for big cams to get rid of that Evo sound, I want mine to scream.
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Cloud0307 (Nov 4, 2016)
Nov 4, 2016, 01:44 PM
#23
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I agree with the above, the MAP would suit you better as it would keep exhaust gases in a similar pattern versus an equal length.
I think it's funny the love hate for the engine noise. I'm also in the boat of it sounds pretty meh. Have never cared much for it. but that's ok!
I think it's funny the love hate for the engine noise. I'm also in the boat of it sounds pretty meh. Have never cared much for it. but that's ok!
Dec 18, 2016, 08:12 PM
#25
I have the MAP cast manifold and it fits great. Looks great. And feels like a quality piece. I purchased it to replace my cracked stock manifold. It has changed color to a green/blue/purple color now that it has been heated up. I have about 10k miles on it and it seems to be doing great. On a stock turbo and 24.5psi, I made 363/328 with supporting bolt ons. My factory turbo has now died and I'm looking to stay stock frame. The gtx3576 will probably be getting mated to this great manifold.
Dec 27, 2016, 06:41 PM
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I have the MAP cast manifold and it fits great. Looks great. And feels like a quality piece. I purchased it to replace my cracked stock manifold. It has changed color to a green/blue/purple color now that it has been heated up. I have about 10k miles on it and it seems to be doing great. On a stock turbo and 24.5psi, I made 363/328 with supporting bolt ons. My factory turbo has now died and I'm looking to stay stock frame. The gtx3576 will probably be getting mated to this great manifold.
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Had good results
i have the Garrett GTX 3071r, with supporting mods.
I just installed the map manifold, I already have the map 3.5 intercooler.
Was already makin nice power, my stock manifold, just looked to go upgraded.
Got a phenomenal deal on it, hands down most hp per dollar other than a tune.
I just installed the map manifold, I already have the map 3.5 intercooler.
Was already makin nice power, my stock manifold, just looked to go upgraded.
Got a phenomenal deal on it, hands down most hp per dollar other than a tune.
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Negative. The Evo motor 4b11 is far different from
the genesis theta motor . Not sure who told you they are the same but it's 100% incorrect
the genesis theta motor . Not sure who told you they are the same but it's 100% incorrect
No, I'm saying the MAP will suit YOU better, because it retains the stock engine exhaust note. Especially considering you like the ETS quiet. I have a Driven Fab single, and I'm a fan of ETS Extreme or Tomei, so opposite.
I don't like the deep flat sound the Evo makes stock. Infact most turbo 4 from factory all sound the same; a flat deep highly muffled tone that doesn't scream. Anything, 4B11, 4G63, 3SGTE, SR20, 1.8T, BPT, Hyundai Genesis (which is an evo motor LOL)anything, even a Honda with a log turbo manifold.
And the "engine exhaust note" tone is separate from the exhaust. My exhaust system sounds good, but my engine doesn't, if that makes sense. Your engine exhaust note is affected by many variables, engine size, compression ratio, cams, flow, overall CFM, manifolds, turbo, WG, ect. Your exhaust is just the actual turbo back (DP/Cat or TP/Catback). That's 2 different things.
You can change it at the engine side, or the exhaust side, or both. An ETS Extreme is going to be loud on any Evo, but the one on tubulars and big turbo is going to scream and be higher pitched. Whereas the one on stock log, or MAP is just simply going to be loud.
A tubular will get more of that 'raspy' sound. Which is what I like. I've actually ordered a MAP tubular V band kit with a 6266 and EWG and looking for big cams to get rid of that Evo sound, I want mine to scream.
I don't like the deep flat sound the Evo makes stock. Infact most turbo 4 from factory all sound the same; a flat deep highly muffled tone that doesn't scream. Anything, 4B11, 4G63, 3SGTE, SR20, 1.8T, BPT, Hyundai Genesis (which is an evo motor LOL)anything, even a Honda with a log turbo manifold.
And the "engine exhaust note" tone is separate from the exhaust. My exhaust system sounds good, but my engine doesn't, if that makes sense. Your engine exhaust note is affected by many variables, engine size, compression ratio, cams, flow, overall CFM, manifolds, turbo, WG, ect. Your exhaust is just the actual turbo back (DP/Cat or TP/Catback). That's 2 different things.
You can change it at the engine side, or the exhaust side, or both. An ETS Extreme is going to be loud on any Evo, but the one on tubulars and big turbo is going to scream and be higher pitched. Whereas the one on stock log, or MAP is just simply going to be loud.
A tubular will get more of that 'raspy' sound. Which is what I like. I've actually ordered a MAP tubular V band kit with a 6266 and EWG and looking for big cams to get rid of that Evo sound, I want mine to scream.
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