Tire pressure sensor(s)
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Tire pressure sensor(s)
So I start up the car yesterday and I get the low tire pressure display. Of course it doesn't tell you which tire, so I get out and check all four. They looked good. I drove to a nearby gas station and checked the pressures. The right front was about 26-27 psi, which is low but not that bad. The other three were at about 29-30 psi. I filled each up to about 31 psi. I got back in, started it up, and the display was still on. I said F it and hauled *** around a corner and the warning went away. Was one of the sensors just loose or something. Also, it was raining (it never rains here) and was a bitterly cold 45F so I wonder if that is a factor. Thanks!
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I put my 16" winters/steels on my car on tues and I didn't put the tpms in them. My tire pressure sensor didn't come on till this morning. I drove it for approx 260kms before the stupid warning light came on That is really reassuring to know that the light takes days to come on with no sensors in the tires but keeps coming on whenever it feels like it when your tires are almost fully inflated.
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your tires are cold and when you drive around, tires warm up, air expands, pressure goes up, light goes off. this is common at this time of year when it starts getting colder, your tires loose pressure because of this.
also, if you put different tires/wheels on, it takes like 3 start-ups or a certain distance and THEN the light goes on.
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also, if you put different tires/wheels on, it takes like 3 start-ups or a certain distance and THEN the light goes on.
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your tires are cold and when you drive around, tires warm up, air expands, pressure goes up, light goes off. this is common at this time of year when it starts getting colder, your tires loose pressure because of this.
also, if you put different tires/wheels on, it takes like 3 start-ups or a certain distance and THEN the light goes on.
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also, if you put different tires/wheels on, it takes like 3 start-ups or a certain distance and THEN the light goes on.
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It isn't a question of calibration. The tire pressure monitoring sensor monitors pressure in the tire - no more. When it is colder, the density of the air increases, and the pressure decreases. Remember the ideal gas law (PV = nRT); if temperature is decreased, while volume remains constant, number moles remains constant, and the gas constant... remains constant, pressure must decrease as well. The next logical step would be to monitor temperature as well to estimate what the current pressure will be when in an approximately steady state. However, this adds extra complexity and problems.
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It isn't a question of calibration. The tire pressure monitoring sensor monitors pressure in the tire - no more. When it is colder, the density of the air increases, and the pressure decreases. Remember the ideal gas law (PV = nRT); if temperature is decreased, while volume remains constant, number moles remains constant, and the gas constant... remains constant, pressure must decrease as well. The next logical step would be to monitor temperature as well to estimate what the current pressure will be when in an approximately steady state. However, this adds extra complexity and problems.
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WTF people, I understand thermal dynamics including pv=nrt. Once again, I live in LA. It was 45 degrees Farenheit when the tire pressure warning showed up. Why aren't people from much colder climates complaining of this? Unless someone with a similar situation has something to offer, please keep your post count to a minimum. Thanks!
Is that helpful?
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WTF people, I understand thermal dynamics including pv=nrt. Once again, I live in LA. It was 45 degrees Farenheit when the tire pressure warning showed up. Why aren't people from much colder climates complaining of this? Unless someone with a similar situation has something to offer, please keep your post count to a minimum. Thanks!
I have to get air at least once a week now because of the weather.
People in colder climates aren't complaining because they simply understand the concept of what's going on here and know to fill up their tires with air..
And yeah, the display will still be lit up after you fill up with air and start driving...takes about half a mile for it to detect the change.
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Northeast experience: Been down here in the 20's F, never touched the tires since delivery and no TSP light. So what you guys are seeing is not related to low temp. but perhaps pressure differences as suggested earlier.
Later, Ken
Later, Ken
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It finally got above 10 degrees here, was negatives for like a week or so. I filled up once this week, but the light would come on normally on startup and upon driving it would go off due to the tires warming up a bit. Eventually it was low enough and cold enough out where it didn't matter and I had to fill up with air finally.
And yes, its temperature related, its not rocket science man. It happens every year and thats why people always end up in ditches and have ****ty traction because they don't know to keep their tires inflated for snow/ice traction. It is a little surprising that it came on at 45 degrees, but it's most likely because you were under inflated to begin with, my light comes on at around 25-26psi. If you understand the equation, i don't see why you still have a question.
And yes, its temperature related, its not rocket science man. It happens every year and thats why people always end up in ditches and have ****ty traction because they don't know to keep their tires inflated for snow/ice traction. It is a little surprising that it came on at 45 degrees, but it's most likely because you were under inflated to begin with, my light comes on at around 25-26psi. If you understand the equation, i don't see why you still have a question.