Non-SS OEM HID headlight conversion
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Non-SS OEM HID headlight conversion
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I was wondering if someone could help me out with a question i have about converting my halogen to oem projector hids. I found a site that sells the headlights but dont know if it comes with everything to complete conversion.
I have been quoted for $2500 from the dealer to do the oem conversion and was wondering if it would be cheaper for me to find the individual components myself and just have a shop install them (im not to savy when it comes to electronic hook-ups).
Not sure if i can post a link to the site, so ill leave it out till told otherwise. But the item on site is described exactly as stated:
"Mitsubishi OEM Headlight HID"
"Part# 8301B074/8301B073"
"Tech Tip: price includes headlight assembly, wiring, bulbs etc."
So what else would i need?
Ill keep on trying to search for more info so thanks in advance to any helpful responses.
I was wondering if someone could help me out with a question i have about converting my halogen to oem projector hids. I found a site that sells the headlights but dont know if it comes with everything to complete conversion.
I have been quoted for $2500 from the dealer to do the oem conversion and was wondering if it would be cheaper for me to find the individual components myself and just have a shop install them (im not to savy when it comes to electronic hook-ups).
Not sure if i can post a link to the site, so ill leave it out till told otherwise. But the item on site is described exactly as stated:
"Mitsubishi OEM Headlight HID"
"Part# 8301B074/8301B073"
"Tech Tip: price includes headlight assembly, wiring, bulbs etc."
So what else would i need?
Ill keep on trying to search for more info so thanks in advance to any helpful responses.
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If I remember correctly from reading posts here and over at the other forums, $2500 sounds about right for an OEM dealership conversion. Not 100% sure on the price, but I'm pretty sure it was more than the pre-installed SS/SSS package.
Also, at the other forum, there was a thread where a member had this done, but they just couldn't figure out how to properly stop the HID flickering. I think there are a few different "disable DRL" hacks that will solve this, but not a proper OEM solution.
Thought about getting the same thing done myself. I know I could probably save half that going DIY or having another shop do it.. but if the result was 100% OEM, I'd definitely prefer that route.
Keep us updated on what you go with
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Also found this post at the other forum..
So unless things have changed in the past few months, an OEM dealership conversion will have flickering issues, and some hacks/workarounds will not solve the issue.
If you put OEM SSS HID's in your NON-SSS vehicle you will have the flicker issue no matter what. The dealership cannot solve the problem. Yes there is a command in the ECU to change the vehicle from NON-SSS to SSS but the command is locked from the factory and cannot be changed with the MUT-III. The only thing you can do to avoid the flicker issue is to disable your DRL's. A "how to" can be found here: http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15545
The J-Rox Harness can only be used with aftermarket HID's.
The J-Rox Harness can only be used with aftermarket HID's.
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Does that part # include the ballasts?? Also, does that part # and the dealer quote include the interior HID leveler button and its installation?
If I remember correctly from reading posts here and over at the other forums, $2500 sounds about right for an OEM dealership conversion. Not 100% sure on the price, but I'm pretty sure it was more than the pre-installed SS/SSS package.
Also, at the other forum, there was a thread where a member had this done, but they just couldn't figure out how to properly stop the HID flickering. I think there are a few different "disable DRL" hacks that will solve this, but not a proper OEM solution.
Thought about getting the same thing done myself. I know I could probably save half that going DIY or having another shop do it.. but if the result was 100% OEM, I'd definitely prefer that route.
Keep us updated on what you go with
If I remember correctly from reading posts here and over at the other forums, $2500 sounds about right for an OEM dealership conversion. Not 100% sure on the price, but I'm pretty sure it was more than the pre-installed SS/SSS package.
Also, at the other forum, there was a thread where a member had this done, but they just couldn't figure out how to properly stop the HID flickering. I think there are a few different "disable DRL" hacks that will solve this, but not a proper OEM solution.
Thought about getting the same thing done myself. I know I could probably save half that going DIY or having another shop do it.. but if the result was 100% OEM, I'd definitely prefer that route.
Keep us updated on what you go with
Ive been trying to search people that have done conversions to oem projector hid headlights from non-ss package for the past few weeks and cant find anything. Everything i find on the topic is for aftermarket products, and thats not an option that i would even want to consider.
But back to the ballast question. Since the headlights cost $500 more per side than the oem halogens, i was hoping that it incorporated every major component to do the conversion. I wasnt to sure on parts actually required, so thought it would be to time to ask the evom community. So thanks for bringing up the ballast to my attention.
As far as the quote from the dealer. No, it did not include the price for HID leveler or installation.
And will keep you updated. Thanks
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Some said they were quoted $2500 plus labor, and one guy had it installed w/leveler for $2500.
OEM ain't cheap.. think just the OEM projectors (no bulbs, wiring, ballasts, leveler) are around $900 for a pair.
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When searching last night, $2500 definitely seemed the average going rate for a dealership conversion to an OEM HID setup (there were several threads on this over at evoxforums).
Some said they were quoted $2500 plus labor, and one guy had it installed w/leveler for $2500.
OEM ain't cheap.. think just the OEM projectors (no bulbs, wiring, ballasts, leveler) are around $900 for a pair.
Some said they were quoted $2500 plus labor, and one guy had it installed w/leveler for $2500.
OEM ain't cheap.. think just the OEM projectors (no bulbs, wiring, ballasts, leveler) are around $900 for a pair.
I found a site that sold the oem projector hid headlights with bulbs, wiring, but not sure if it includes ballasts for $883 per side which is a little over $200 cheaper per side than the dealer quote.
Now to find some downtime at work during the day so i could contact support from that site to find out if it includes ballasts.
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I have put the SSS headlights on my GSR. In order for them to work properly (no flicker), you'll need an aftermarket HID kit. I prefer this :http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=242
You'll need a 9006 Relay harness with a D2S bulb. This kit is second to none, the quality is exponentionally better than any ebay kit.
You'll need a 9006 Relay harness with a D2S bulb. This kit is second to none, the quality is exponentionally better than any ebay kit.
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I have put the SSS headlights on my GSR. In order for them to work properly (no flicker), you'll need an aftermarket HID kit. I prefer this :http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=242
You'll need a 9006 Relay harness with a D2S bulb. This kit is second to none, the quality is exponentionally better than any ebay kit.
You'll need a 9006 Relay harness with a D2S bulb. This kit is second to none, the quality is exponentionally better than any ebay kit.
Couple questions i have are, does this (flickering problem) apply to the 2011 models as well? I was reading up on another forum where someone stated that the flickering issue didnt apply to 2011 models since there are no longer DRLs in them.
Also, if you installed this hd kit yourself. How difficult was the process?
In the meantime ill be looking into your method as well since it would make sense to just apply an aftermarket hid kit on oem projectors to skip the hassle of other methods that i have seen posted but seem complicated.
Thanks again.
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I have put the SSS headlights on my GSR. In order for them to work properly (no flicker), you'll need an aftermarket HID kit. I prefer this :http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=242
You'll need a 9006 Relay harness with a D2S bulb. This kit is second to none, the quality is exponentionally better than any ebay kit.
You'll need a 9006 Relay harness with a D2S bulb. This kit is second to none, the quality is exponentionally better than any ebay kit.
Is switching to oem projectors just plug and play w/o hid kit?
thanks again.
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if you buy the SSS headlights and they include the ballasts and bulbs, switch the ballasts and bulbs out with the HID kit I linked and then it will be PnP and work perfectly.
As they sit, OEM SSS are PnP. However, you'll have all sorts of flickering issues. Thats why an aftermarket HID kit is required.
As far as difficulty of installation, just replace the OEM ballast and bulbs with the new ones. The ballasts have a bracket holding them on the bottom of the headlight housing. You'll also have to run the harness, it's pretty much a no-brainer.
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Dang! the SSS package is like 2,000 I woulda imagined it be cheaper or no where near that price to get hids since u don't get the Rockford 6 cd system with sub, serious satellite radio, the large rear spoiler and the FAST key system.
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if you buy the SSS headlights and they include the ballasts and bulbs, switch the ballasts and bulbs out with the HID kit I linked and then it will be PnP and work perfectly.
As they sit, OEM SSS are PnP. However, you'll have all sorts of flickering issues. Thats why an aftermarket HID kit is required.
As far as difficulty of installation, just replace the OEM ballast and bulbs with the new ones. The ballasts have a bracket holding them on the bottom of the headlight housing. You'll also have to run the harness, it's pretty much a no-brainer.
As they sit, OEM SSS are PnP. However, you'll have all sorts of flickering issues. Thats why an aftermarket HID kit is required.
As far as difficulty of installation, just replace the OEM ballast and bulbs with the new ones. The ballasts have a bracket holding them on the bottom of the headlight housing. You'll also have to run the harness, it's pretty much a no-brainer.