Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
Looking at the Pilot Sport A/S Plus in 265/35-18. Is anyone running these. All the Porsche and Corvette guys at work are raving about them. I've read lots of good reviews, saw them in person, and they seem like great tires that I can get lots of mileage out of for the 80+ mile daily grind I drive everyday. Everyone I've talked to say these things grip really well for a A/S tire. I'm just wondering how much grip they really have.
For DD I'd like to have something that does well in the rain, will last at least 30k miles, and can still be do well when spirited driving presents itself. Being that these tires are great in the rain and can average around 40-45k miles make them very appealing.
Also I have a 2nd set of wheels/tires I'll be using for future track/auto x, so I'm covered there.
For DD I'd like to have something that does well in the rain, will last at least 30k miles, and can still be do well when spirited driving presents itself. Being that these tires are great in the rain and can average around 40-45k miles make them very appealing.
Also I have a 2nd set of wheels/tires I'll be using for future track/auto x, so I'm covered there.
Last edited by justin81; Dec 5, 2010 at 11:51 AM.
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For DD I'd like to have something that does well in the rain, will last at least 30k miles, and can still be do well when spirited driving presents itself. Being that these tires are great in the rain and can average around 40-45k miles make them very appealing.
Also I have a 2nd set of wheels/tires I'll be using for future track/auto x, so I'm covered there.
Also I have a 2nd set of wheels/tires I'll be using for future track/auto x, so I'm covered there.
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I'm going to give them a shot. If they don't work out I'll put them on my wife's car since she isn't as worried about aggressive grip as I am. With her long 5mile a day drive to and from work, these Michelin's could last her years and years.
Thanks for the input guys.
Thanks for the input guys.
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I have them on my evo x gsr, I used them this weekend at Eagle Canyon Raceway and they were great. I am putting down 425whp on pump gas and they are far better than the stock advans for my driving style
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out of curiosity why not conti dws? if you're looking for ultimate grip it should be a summer tire period, with two sets of wheels which you have. if you're looking for the best dry and wet performing all season.. i'll probably be the re960as.. but i think dws still has it covered in the wet
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Everything I had read put the Michelin's above the Birdgestone's on wet traction. I was under the impression the DWS were more for winter weather than the Michelin's. We might get snow (really just ice) about once or twice a year. I may be totally wrong about that. We do get plenty of rain though.
Really I just wanted to see if they really grip as well as all the Corvette and Porsche guys say they are. A grippy tire that is good in the rain and will last 40k miles is hard to resist for DD. I'll post how they do after 500miles or so.
Really I just wanted to see if they really grip as well as all the Corvette and Porsche guys say they are. A grippy tire that is good in the rain and will last 40k miles is hard to resist for DD. I'll post how they do after 500miles or so.
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Everything I had read put the Michelin's above the Birdgestone's on wet traction. I was under the impression the DWS were more for winter weather than the Michelin's. We might get snow (really just ice) about once or twice a year. I may be totally wrong about that. We do get plenty of rain though.
Really I just wanted to see if they really grip as well as all the Corvette and Porsche guys say they are. A grippy tire that is good in the rain and will last 40k miles is hard to resist for DD. I'll post how they do after 500miles or so.
Really I just wanted to see if they really grip as well as all the Corvette and Porsche guys say they are. A grippy tire that is good in the rain and will last 40k miles is hard to resist for DD. I'll post how they do after 500miles or so.
also, correct me if im wrong but porsches and corvettes run the michelin pilot sport ps2 (extreme summer tire), not the pilot sport all season
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Yes they do. I think they are run-flats. These guys I've talked to have switched to the the A/S plus to get more life out of them, and to keep the rear ends planted in the rain. I've seen my buddies z06 slip and slide pretty bad in the rain. My buddy in the 911 just wanted longer life out of them. I think the ps2 has a 200 rating, and these have a 500 so they should last almost twice as long for close to the same price.
These guys don't really push their cars as hard as I do though, so we'll see. They baby their cars quite a bit. Not that I beat on mine all the time, but I drive it like a evo is meant to be driven.
These guys don't really push their cars as hard as I do though, so we'll see. They baby their cars quite a bit. Not that I beat on mine all the time, but I drive it like a evo is meant to be driven.
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I've been running these for over a year on my ix. Dry grip is good, although they dont give much warning before they give up on lateral grip. Best tire I've ever had in regards to rain, excellent grip and very resistant to hydroplaning. I used these during our horrible (or awesome IMO) snowy year last year with no problems. Also have no measurable wear on them, at least 15,000 miles+.
They are a little expensive, but well worth it. Of course there is going to be some sacrifice in getting a non-summer tire, but I don't notice it.
420 awhp in NJ
They are a little expensive, but well worth it. Of course there is going to be some sacrifice in getting a non-summer tire, but I don't notice it.
420 awhp in NJ
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EDIT: mis-read. A/S for P/S, disregard, below still valid for P/S.
I've run these for over 3 years on many different vehicles.
They have crazy dry and warm grip, good wet, but once the temperatures drop below 30F, ANY amount of moisture will run you into a median.
Had these on once for a freak snowstorm out of nowhere, literally look me 2 minutes at near redline to get up a small hill. Then once over that hill took nearly a 1/8th mile to stop from about 30MPH. Just slid down the hill the entire time.
Uber summer performance, not even a chance in cold wet conditions. The stock Advans perform better in wet cold than the A/S. Which says alot, cause the stock Advans suck, lol. Also they are very expensive and have very aggressive tread wear.
I've run these for over 3 years on many different vehicles.
They have crazy dry and warm grip, good wet, but once the temperatures drop below 30F, ANY amount of moisture will run you into a median.
Had these on once for a freak snowstorm out of nowhere, literally look me 2 minutes at near redline to get up a small hill. Then once over that hill took nearly a 1/8th mile to stop from about 30MPH. Just slid down the hill the entire time.
Uber summer performance, not even a chance in cold wet conditions. The stock Advans perform better in wet cold than the A/S. Which says alot, cause the stock Advans suck, lol. Also they are very expensive and have very aggressive tread wear.
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I've run these for over 3 years on many different vehicles.
They have crazy dry and warm grip, good wet, but once the temperatures drop below 30F, ANY amount of moisture will run you into a median.
Had these on once for a freak snowstorm out of nowhere, literally look me 2 minutes at near redline to get up a small hill. Then once over that hill took nearly a 1/8th mile to stop from about 30MPH. Just slid down the hill the entire time.
Uber summer performance, not even a chance in cold wet conditions. The stock Advans perform better in wet cold than the A/S. Which says alot, cause the stock Advans suck, lol. Also they are very expensive and have very aggressive tread wear.
They have crazy dry and warm grip, good wet, but once the temperatures drop below 30F, ANY amount of moisture will run you into a median.
Had these on once for a freak snowstorm out of nowhere, literally look me 2 minutes at near redline to get up a small hill. Then once over that hill took nearly a 1/8th mile to stop from about 30MPH. Just slid down the hill the entire time.
Uber summer performance, not even a chance in cold wet conditions. The stock Advans perform better in wet cold than the A/S. Which says alot, cause the stock Advans suck, lol. Also they are very expensive and have very aggressive tread wear.
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