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Old May 5, 2010, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by link62
wow that be a lot to edit lol so whats next on the list of things to do?
Gonna have to wait until i get home and can compare the rom with the data.

I was hoping to label the maps with accell and decel but i don't see that really with the data. So much to do :P
Old May 5, 2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
Gonna have to wait until i get home and can compare the rom with the data.

I was hoping to label the maps with accell and decel but i don't see that really with the data. So much to do :P
haha ok cool just let me know what i need to do next
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wow thats too many maps.

if you want to control the shifting you can override all that by using the gear selector.
it shifts nice after tuning the shifting maps.
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RoadSpike,

Do you have any issues with startups on E85?
Its annoying to have to push the gas pedal to help the car start when the engine is warm.

When the engine is cold, it starts right up without pushing the gas.

Im guessing I have to lower the "Fuel Primer First Pulse" and "Post Primer Crank Enrichment" tables in the appropriate engine temperature, right?

What does the "Post Primer Decay Multiplier" map do?
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Originally Posted by 4g94T
RoadSpike,

Do you have any issues with startups on E85?
Its annoying to have to push the gas pedal to help the car start when the engine is warm.

When the engine is cold, it starts right up without pushing the gas.

Im guessing I have to lower the "Fuel Primer First Pulse" and "Post Primer Crank Enrichment" tables in the appropriate engine temperature, right?

What does the "Post Primer Decay Multiplier" map do?
Nope I don't runs just slightly rich for me on moderate warm starts but fires up pretty much no problem.

I would definitely be lowering the first primer pulse in the warm areas if you are having to open the throttle to start it.

The injector decay table doesn't appear to be labeled right when i was looking at it so i just leave it stock and mess with the tables i know works like post primer and initial pulse.

The primer enrichment decay just keeps the gas coming in for a number of seconds basically just enough to get it warm enough to idle right.
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Okay thanks!
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so 4g94t are u just running on the gta rom?
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Idle is fine. Just trying to fix start ups then I'll start tuning it.
It's finals week so I don't have much time to work on it.

I still want to do the fuel pump rewire also
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Okay so its confirmed? the evo rom will work with no problems on the lancer ecu?
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Ok so i'm not really getting anywhere without the ability to just directly test the data. So this is what i'm going to do. I found the maps all 32 of them and 2 that are unknown are broken into 4 states.

I laid out the maps in order of their placement in the rom.

I know that there are basically two factors that decide what map the car is running in. I will hazard a guess one of the factors is during braking. The other is unknown to me at this time. I know it has something to do with the testing of certain factors like if its in drive or not but i can't really tell. It may be something as simple as a gear lever selection.

Maps 1 & 3 are related to eachother
Maps 2 & 4 are related to eachother

I labled the maps inside each category according to their placement in a variable so map 1 is the same as a map 1 of another category. I'm fairly sure that each category has to do with shaft speed of the transmission rather than rpm of the engine since they climb for each gear. There seem to be obvious downshifting maps in each one too.

One of the people on ecuflash said that maps with the first one so I think we should try messing with shift maps 1 and see their effects. It should be pretty obvious if you set the whole map to 1 value to see when the shift point occurs.

PHP Code:
    <table name="Shift Map 1" category="Shift Maps 1" address="419f6" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 2" category="Shift Maps 1" address="41a42" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 3" category="Shift Maps 1" address="41a8e" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 4" category="Shift Maps 1" address="41ada" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 5" category="Shift Maps 1" address="41c0a" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 6" category="Shift Maps 1" address="41bbe" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 7" category="Shift Maps 1" address="41b72" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 8" category="Shift Maps 1" address="41b26" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 5 Condition 2" category="Shift Maps 1" address="48130" type="1D" scaling="uint8"/>
    <
table name="Shift Map 6 Condition 2" category="Shift Maps 1" address="48134" type="1D" scaling="uint8"/>
    <
table name="Shift Map 7 Condition 2" category="Shift Maps 1" address="48138" type="1D" scaling="uint8"/>
    <
table name="Shift Map 8 Condition 2" category="Shift Maps 1" address="4813c" type="1D" scaling="uint8"/>
    
    
    <
table name="Shift Map 1" category="Shift Maps 2" address="41a1c" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 2" category="Shift Maps 2" address="41a68" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 3" category="Shift Maps 2" address="41ab4" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 4" category="Shift Maps 2" address="41b00" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 5" category="Shift Maps 2" address="41c30" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 6" category="Shift Maps 2" address="41be4" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 7" category="Shift Maps 2" address="41b98" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 8" category="Shift Maps 2" address="41b4c" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
  
  <
table name="Shift Map 1" category="Shift Maps 3" address="428a0" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 2" category="Shift Maps 3" address="428ec" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 3" category="Shift Maps 3" address="42938" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 4" category="Shift Maps 3" address="42984" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 5" category="Shift Maps 3" address="42ab4" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 6" category="Shift Maps 3" address="42a68" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 7" category="Shift Maps 3" address="42a1c" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 8" category="Shift Maps 3" address="429d0" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>  
    
    <
table name="Shift Map 1" category="Shift Maps 4" address="428c6" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 2" category="Shift Maps 4" address="42912" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 3" category="Shift Maps 4" address="4295e" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 4" category="Shift Maps 4" address="429aa" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 5" category="Shift Maps 4" address="42ada" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 6" category="Shift Maps 4" address="42a8e" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 7" category="Shift Maps 4" address="42a42" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table>
    <
table name="Shift Map 8" category="Shift Maps 4" address="429f6" type="2D" level="1" scaling="uint8">
        <
table name="load" address="41174" type="Y Axis" elements="32" scaling="ThrottleVoltage16"/>
    </
table
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Originally Posted by bvasquez12
Okay so its confirmed? the evo rom will work with no problems on the lancer ecu?
With 2002-2004 manual transmission Lancers only, yes.
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Originally Posted by senate6268
With 2002-2004 manual transmission Lancers only, yes.
We are working on getting the auto transmission evo 7 rom working for the 2002-2004 lancers.

I'm pretty sure we can make the 05-06 ones work too but they need special xml's to run ecuflash properly. 05-06 seem to use the mitsukernelocp method instead of mitsukernel.

Did confirm the 2002-2004 roms will work on a 2005-2006 but again the special xml is required to make it work.
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Up goes the price of lancer ecus, and down goes the price of evo ecus?
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so a lil update i tried the gta rom again and put my lancer shift pressures and times and other things from my lancer rom and theres still no power to the tranny, when i push on the pedal the engine has to rev to 2-3k just to start to get the car to move foward and i still get massive amount of knock when i go anywhere near boost idk if its cause the knock filters are diff or somthing else but when i get a chance RS ill try to mess with the maps
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Originally Posted by link62
so a lil update i tried the gta rom again and put my lancer shift pressures and times and other things from my lancer rom and theres still no power to the tranny, when i push on the pedal the engine has to rev to 2-3k just to start to get the car to move foward and i still get massive amount of knock when i go anywhere near boost idk if its cause the knock filters are diff or somthing else but when i get a chance RS ill try to mess with the maps
Yes it does seem as if the evo rom is more sensitive to knock I would try to tune it out if you can but if all else fails I'll dig up the address for the knock sensitivity filters. Don't change the knock maps directly they aren't correct.

Ok buddy.

Thats interesting its letting the torque converter stall like that wondering why the lockup isn't going as intended.

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