OZ Springs On An ES?
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Originally Posted by akasirlancerlot
ok well
1) search next time..
2) ill be nice
hold on.
the back suspension is the same.
the front u need oz bearings and bearing plates... that is all. (i believe)
1) search next time..
2) ill be nice
hold on.
the back suspension is the same.
the front u need oz bearings and bearing plates... that is all. (i believe)
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So if i was to put Ralliart springs and struts on my ES... I'd jsut have to purchase the upper strut mounts and upper strut bearings off of an OZ/Ralliart... only for the front because the back is the same... and then would i be able to change the springs to H&R without any problems after?
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
In the end it wouldn't be worth it, you'd spend hundreds on shocks and springs and you wouldn't gain any more performance than you would by just buying springs for the stock struts/shocks. Why not save your money and buy an actual suspension kit (tein, nex, jic)?
no matter what its going to be the cheap way out to lower your car, i do however agree on saving for some good coilovers is the way to go.
and your comment on not gaining any performance with just springs...... unless you have some proof in numbers, i wouldnt be so quick to talk
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Is it more than just buying springs? Yes, it would be at least 150$ (based on prices I've heard for the mounts and bearings) more. Now then, are springs great for performance, or are their any real differences between spring manufacturers? No not really. I've heard of lots of people blowing their stock shocks out on just springs, hell do a search and you'll see. My brother has gone through two sets of shocks (I believe) on his corolla, and he has eibachs which claim they won't blow out the stock system. As for the last bit, do you really think that the OZ mounts are going to make any performance difference? Put an ES with progress springs against an OZ with teins/eibachs/whatever and you'd be doubtful to see a difference. A car with coilovers on the other hand is a completely different story.
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It would cost me about $150 cnd for the upper strut mounts and the upper strut mount bearings at most. I am able to get ralliart struts and springs that are pretty much brand new for a very good price. So i was thinking of just getting those installed for now to stiffen up the ride a bit. My original plan was to go with tein basic coilovers... but i don't autocross or race and the roads where i live are pretty ****ty.. so i wasn't too sure if the trade-off was worth it. I was also able to get ralliart h&r springs for a very good price so that's why i suggested those as well. I don't want to put Progress lowering springs on my ES because they are too low... and i can just tell by looking at them that they would take out my shocks in less than 6 months. Would the ralli-art struts and springs feel ALOT better around corners than my ES suspension... I know it will feel better... but would it be "worth it" better (without H&R lowering springs)?
I originally saved enough money for the coilovers... but if i go with the ralliart suspension i could get headers and probably toss on a spoiler as well before spring.
I originally saved enough money for the coilovers... but if i go with the ralliart suspension i could get headers and probably toss on a spoiler as well before spring.
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Does this look like Ralliart springs or shocks will give you any better performance? I think not, look at how squishy they are. Pointless, as said above. Now I can understand a little bit about people buying OZ parts because that opens up more options for springs, but yet again springs aren't what makes the suspension perform better (honestly, all they do is lower the center of gravity). It's shocks that help handling, so if you're still on the stock shocks, it doesn't matter what springs you buy, so just buy whatever is available for your ES and brag about your car being lowered.
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Thanks for the responses. The cheapest i could find Nex coilovers were for 644 plus shipping, but i have decided that I am going to pay the extra 1-200 dollars and get the tein basic coilovers. I will suck up the stiffer ride for the thrill of driving.