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Old May 26, 2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
I think we both agree that something is not right, and they are trying to fix it. Perhaps the issue is openness?
What are they supposed to say? "We're dealing with some overheating issues" and then any time a car has heat issues people show up saying "you knew about this, you sold us lemons!"

If it's a handling or braking issue, it could be a safety liability. If it's emissions, they wouldn't want to risk the EPA's ire.

If it's something simple... well they just don't want to look stupid.
Old May 26, 2016, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
I think we both agree that something is not right, and they are trying to fix it. Perhaps the issue is openness? I guess that comes down to what people believe Ford should be saying about the situation. I don't see them as owing anyone a required explanation, but I'm sure others believe that since they put a $1K downpayment on a first-of-a-kind $36K car, Ford should be pandering to their impatience for a new toy.
when has an automotive manufacturer ever been open about this sort of thing? this isn't a personal project car at some tuner shop...
Old May 26, 2016, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
You mean Mexico.

Fiesta ST for NA is built in Mexico.
Right?.....That's where all the YouTube videos are gonna come from anywahz.

Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
What are they supposed to say? "We're dealing with some overheating issues" and then any time a car has heat issues people show up saying "you knew about this, you sold us lemons!"

If it's a handling or braking issue, it could be a safety liability. If it's emissions, they wouldn't want to risk the EPA's ire.

If it's something simple... well they just don't want to look stupid.
Like trying to get it to pass 50 state compliance.... We'll get the watered down 327 HP version after all is said and done.
Old May 27, 2016, 03:50 PM
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Well, in some videos, Ford was BS'ing (apparently) and said they needed to beef up the Evoque unit to deal with the Focus RS studliness. A later interview with GKN said it's the same physical unit. It might be that the level of excitement generated with drifting and the overdriven nature of the rear when driven aggressively just taxes things more than expected.

Did they back off some so that the 350HP seem like "little" ponies more than robust horses? They did say the release would only be when it's ready. That looks to be 2017. The fortunate people who get a 2016 RS are the advanced beta testers.


Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
I would be concerned in the sense of.....What are they still trying to get right? There was a lot of hype going on with the car, right up until there was some overheating issues with a few RDU's at magazine tests, then Ford seemed to kind of go quiet...
Old May 27, 2016, 04:02 PM
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I think some Europeans have already taken delivery of their cars. It makes sense that the US would be 1-2 months behind that.
Old May 27, 2016, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
I think some Europeans have already taken delivery of their cars. It makes sense that the US would be 1-2 months behind that.
that is true, My brother in law two of his Ford dealership has already two of them. One white and one blue

white is my favorite so far (of course ) lol
I was invited for a full track weekend in them , but I cant leave the states right now.
Killing me though. Hopefully my job let me go soon, and I can test those babies

Old May 27, 2016, 04:43 PM
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...-shop-detroit/
Old May 30, 2016, 01:02 AM
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Well a move to Detroit makes absolute sense. Looking forward to cheaper Cosworth parts
Old May 31, 2016, 12:21 PM
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Another Focus RS vs Civic Type R comparison test:

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/...us-rs-11393663
Old May 31, 2016, 06:06 PM
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Clarkson review

http://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews...ford-focus-rs/
Old May 31, 2016, 06:24 PM
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I love how Clarkson tells it like it is! He's still the dude.
Old May 31, 2016, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
I love how Clarkson tells it like it is! He's still the dude.
Yes he does and yes he is.

"Manufacturers need to accept that not one of the designers or engineers they employ joined up so they could work on the new rear-light cluster for a hatchback. They joined up so they could get their teeth into something that would cause the world to stagger."

"I’ve said it before and I’m going to say it here again, now. Nothing brilliant has ever resulted from a meeting. A meeting, by its very nature, is bound to produce a consensus. And a consensus is never going to have any peaks or troughs. Margarine came from a meeting. Butter didn’t."

I need to print both of these out, frame them and hang them in my office at work.
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Old May 31, 2016, 07:00 PM
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That video should be named, "Seat Leon Cupra flies by 16 other Seat Leon Cupras, every body else on the track, oh and a 2016 Focus RS".

Old May 31, 2016, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
That video should be named, "Seat Leon Cupra flies by 16 other Seat Leon Cupras, every body else on the track, oh and a 2016 Focus RS".

Lol


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