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Old Jan 26, 2012, 09:35 AM
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Gear shift jerk on SST

hi..

This happens only a few times, I feel a big jerk when gear drop from D2 to D1 in low speed in Normal mode. Is it normal for the SST?
Old Jan 26, 2012, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by emperor496
hi..

This happens only a few times, I feel a big jerk when gear drop from D2 to D1 in low speed in Normal mode. Is it normal for the SST?
No, it's not normal.


Have you been tuned?

That exact issue cropped up in some prior beta revisions of the Ralliart GST Base Map. We tracked it down - the trail led back to a minor tuning change in the SST-Throttle-Voodoo-Requested-Torque-Guru-Meditation tables. Or something. Once the low-load, low-rpm cells were smoothed down towards stock values, it resolved the issue.

I reckon the ECU was getting confused, and tried to almost throttle-blip its way from 2 to 1 in Normal Auto mode. It had no place doing that in Normal, and got itself in a knot. Once fixed, there was no blipping, no clutch action, and all was smooth once again.

But... if you're on stock ECU, it's a "take it to the dealer" kind of thing.

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Originally Posted by richardjh
No, it's not normal.


Have you been tuned?

That exact issue cropped up in some prior beta revisions of the Ralliart GST Base Map. We tracked it down - the trail led back to a minor tuning change in the SST-Throttle-Voodoo-Requested-Torque-Guru-Meditation tables. Or something. Once the low-load, low-rpm cells were smoothed down towards stock values, it resolved the issue.

I reckon the ECU was getting confused, and tried to almost throttle-blip its way from 2 to 1 in Normal Auto mode. It had no place doing that in Normal, and got itself in a knot. Once fixed, there was no blipping, no clutch action, and all was smooth once again.

But... if you're on stock ECU, it's a "take it to the dealer" kind of thing.

Rich
I am on stock ECU. No plan to change to better ECU or tune right now. Will it damage the gear box or cluctch if it happens very often?

Will the jerk gone completely if I change the ECU or tune?
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Happened to me once or twice around 20000 miles ago, car still runs fine.
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Originally Posted by emperor496
I am on stock ECU. No plan to change to better ECU or tune right now. Will it damage the gear box or cluctch if it happens very often?
I'd raise it with the dealer... especially seeing as you're on stock tune.

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Will the jerk gone completely if I change the ECU or tune?
Nope, I can't see how.

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I just watch the show Top Gear, they test the new lambo aventador.. and jeremy clarkson says that flappy paddle gearbox do jerk at low speed. Let say if we are trapped in traffic jam.. The lambo gearbox of cause better than evo sst, I think..

any comment??
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I'm at 20K now and never experienced it before? I don't think its normal anyway outta get that checked out bro.
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I'm at 20K now and never experienced it before? I don't think its normal anyway outta get that checked out bro.
will do..
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Any word on this?

My Ralliart when I had it did this as well and so does my X now occasionally.
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Originally Posted by Credz
Any word on this?

My Ralliart when I had it did this as well and so does my X now occasionally.
Your sig says Cobb Accessport... so your best bet is to raise it with them.

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Oh I didnt install that yet. It's still in the mail on the way. Haha.
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Your gonna feel the difference in the car
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the lambo trans isn't dual clutch either.
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Originally Posted by richardjh
No, it's not normal.


Have you been tuned?

That exact issue cropped up in some prior beta revisions of the Ralliart GST Base Map. We tracked it down - the trail led back to a minor tuning change in the SST-Throttle-Voodoo-Requested-Torque-Guru-Meditation tables. Or something. Once the low-load, low-rpm cells were smoothed down towards stock values, it resolved the issue.

I reckon the ECU was getting confused, and tried to almost throttle-blip its way from 2 to 1 in Normal Auto mode. It had no place doing that in Normal, and got itself in a knot. Once fixed, there was no blipping, no clutch action, and all was smooth once again.

But... if you're on stock ECU, it's a "take it to the dealer" kind of thing.

Rich
What did you do exactly ? I have this exact issue from 2nd to 1st on my 2012 MR, all stock SST tables. This clutch action is really annoying in normal, auto mode (especially for my girlfriend who don't drive in manual mode )

My thread about this issue is here: http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=352041

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Originally Posted by domyz
What did you do exactly ? I have this exact issue from 2nd to 1st on my 2012 MR, all stock SST tables. This clutch action is really annoying in normal, auto mode (especially for my girlfriend who don't drive in manual mode )

My thread about this issue is here: http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=352041
Hi.

What did we do? We were revising the stock ECU SST-related maps, and making them not-stock.

If a stock-SST-map car in NORMAL AUTO is doing horrible clunky downshifts at low speed, it's not typical. And I don't reckon it's something that can really be "fixed" by editing ECU SST-related tables.

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