Thinking outside the Evo!
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Thinking outside the Evo!
So, I'm at a point where I'm ready to move into something else for HPDE.
I would love to hear your thoughts on what you would drive if you didn't have an Evo.
I would also love to hear your thoughts on these current track weapons I'm considering (in no particular order) including design flaws, any pitfalls, etc:
2008+ Dodge Viper STR-10 (or ACR if I can find one in my budget)
Corvette C6 Z06 (Can't afford the new one yet)
E92 M3
LS3 swapped Rx7 FD
I would love to hear your thoughts on what you would drive if you didn't have an Evo.
I would also love to hear your thoughts on these current track weapons I'm considering (in no particular order) including design flaws, any pitfalls, etc:
2008+ Dodge Viper STR-10 (or ACR if I can find one in my budget)
Corvette C6 Z06 (Can't afford the new one yet)
E92 M3
LS3 swapped Rx7 FD
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For just an HPDE car, I'd want something cheap enough that I can afford to wreck it, relatively cheap to build and maintain, easy to work on, easy to source parts, and probably RWD.
With that, I'd say E36 M3 or any Miata. Those are much lower power than what you've mentioned, but Miatas especially have plenty of options for moar powa if you want-- forced induction or there are plenty of engine swaps.
I've been thinking lately about something which offers similar Performance Per Dollar as an Evo if and when I decide to move on or add. I think I'd probably aim for a kit car of some sort-- I like Brunton Stalkers-- it's a Caterham 7 replica weighing in around 1600, it accepts V6 or LSx engines putting power potential from 200 to 350+ hp, Double Wishbones front and back, tons of tweaking available, etc. Some AC Cobra kits are similar coming in ~2500 pounds with LSx engines, just not sure many of them are tailored to handling.
With that, I'd say E36 M3 or any Miata. Those are much lower power than what you've mentioned, but Miatas especially have plenty of options for moar powa if you want-- forced induction or there are plenty of engine swaps.
I've been thinking lately about something which offers similar Performance Per Dollar as an Evo if and when I decide to move on or add. I think I'd probably aim for a kit car of some sort-- I like Brunton Stalkers-- it's a Caterham 7 replica weighing in around 1600, it accepts V6 or LSx engines putting power potential from 200 to 350+ hp, Double Wishbones front and back, tons of tweaking available, etc. Some AC Cobra kits are similar coming in ~2500 pounds with LSx engines, just not sure many of them are tailored to handling.
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For a racecar, I would do an LS motor in a 240sx. cheap car, cheap motor. And even caged are very light.
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I would personally go C6 Z06 or C5 Z06. C5 because of cost would make a perfect HPDE car. I don't really compete in any series so car limitations are not a concern so a cammed C5 on sticky tires would run all day long.
C6 Z06 are strong contenders is the price dosent scare you off. The Nannies make everyone look good. Strong power plant (if you can avoid the oils starvation issue). Odds are I will move to a C6 Z06 once I can handle the tire bill.
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The 240sx LSX would have been a great idea about 7yrs ago... the price of motors, swap kits and shells are stupid as heck right now (not to mention insurance rates)
The best option would be to try a LS swapped FC or FD rx7. They are great power to weight and lots of spares out there to support the chassis.
The old reliable Honda civic should never be turned down with the price of swaps very low they are very fast cars out there with basic stuff and 15 or 16" tires (CHEAP).
The oldest BMW I would suggest is the E46 M3 and if its beat up that could be to your advantage for a cheap swap shell.
Stay away from Audi, MB... have you thought of a G8, CTSV or even a GTO since your shopping for vettes?
The best option would be to try a LS swapped FC or FD rx7. They are great power to weight and lots of spares out there to support the chassis.
The old reliable Honda civic should never be turned down with the price of swaps very low they are very fast cars out there with basic stuff and 15 or 16" tires (CHEAP).
The oldest BMW I would suggest is the E46 M3 and if its beat up that could be to your advantage for a cheap swap shell.
Stay away from Audi, MB... have you thought of a G8, CTSV or even a GTO since your shopping for vettes?
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Say it aint so
How about extending the performance level of the EVO. Built track engine & drive-train coupled w/serious suspension work
Evolve the Evo!!!
Whats the matter w/you Noah
Just joking. All things come to an end. Havent given it too much thought except maybe a GT3 cup car
How about extending the performance level of the EVO. Built track engine & drive-train coupled w/serious suspension work
Evolve the Evo!!!
Whats the matter w/you Noah
Just joking. All things come to an end. Havent given it too much thought except maybe a GT3 cup car
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I'm just bored with the platform. I'm now at that point where I have to get hardcore with the car to get more out of it, or get a car that's a bit more raw out of the box.
I love the evo and even the thought of getting rid of it makes we wince but I feel like I'm ready for some N/A RWD action.
I love the evo and even the thought of getting rid of it makes we wince but I feel like I'm ready for some N/A RWD action.
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I'm just bored with the platform. I'm now at that point where I have to get hardcore with the car to get more out of it, or get a car that's a bit more raw out of the box.
I love the evo and even the thought of getting rid of it makes we wince but I feel like I'm ready for some N/A RWD action.
I love the evo and even the thought of getting rid of it makes we wince but I feel like I'm ready for some N/A RWD action.
The FC LS swap may be what your looking for if you are looking for analog excitement.
The GT3 is a very nice car that kinda almost drives itself so that's not much of a challenge over an evo, sti or S4/RS4
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My favorite car that i had was my S2000. That thing could take a beating and was so much fun to drive. And it was not really all that expensive if you get an AP1.
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I must have done at least 15 or 20 HPDE events on my S2000. If you are not carefull it can bite you like anything that is rear wheel drive. But that cars limit is very high i feel before it starts to get there. Just like any car if you learn to drive it smooth you will be able to feel when the rear is stepping out a little bit and how to bring it back in. But yea it deffinitly is known for its snap oversteer. But i loved that car that this was like on rails and was so light. When i drive the evo i feel like im driving a tank compared to that car lol. Its so heavy and and feels so much less connected to the road. The sS2000 has great feedback to the driver for what the tires and the car is doing since you sit so low! Sorry for the long response lol
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Personally if your considering a Porsche, I'd look into a Cayman.
I've always teased the idea of a C5 Z06. Price and reliability are great. Simplicity in a track car gives me peace of mind.
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I had an S2000 before the Evo. And I LOVED that car!! The only reason I haven't gone back is I couldn't take a huge step backward in lap times.