100 tread wear tire talk. Need some opinions from track gurus
Feb 22, 2017, 08:29 AM
#33
What I've learned playing with Maxxis RC1 and Toyo RA1
- Maxxis RC1 is not a good time attack tire. However, it wears very well and was originally developed for Miata spec series.
-Toyo RA1 are slower out of the box. However, when they are shaved or worn to 3/32. They are about 1-2 seconds faster. They also don't heat cycle out like a slick and I felt like they kept getting faster.
What I've heard from other drivers.
-Nitto NT-01 is right on par with RA-1. The main differences are they do heats up quicker and you don't need to shave them
- Toyo R888 heat cycles out fast.
Hope some of this is useful.
- Maxxis RC1 is not a good time attack tire. However, it wears very well and was originally developed for Miata spec series.
-Toyo RA1 are slower out of the box. However, when they are shaved or worn to 3/32. They are about 1-2 seconds faster. They also don't heat cycle out like a slick and I felt like they kept getting faster.
What I've heard from other drivers.
-Nitto NT-01 is right on par with RA-1. The main differences are they do heats up quicker and you don't need to shave them
- Toyo R888 heat cycles out fast.
Hope some of this is useful.
Last edited by awdboosted; Feb 22, 2017 at 08:43 AM.
Feb 22, 2017, 09:46 AM
#35
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My point was that if pick up a set of MPSS now, you may not be able to find a single MPSS replacement in a year if you ruin one, and the others are close enough in tread depth to just replace one. Where as the MPS4 will likely be around for 3-5yrs.
Dec 15, 2017, 10:37 AM
#36
I've been looking around at 100 treadwear tires the past couple months. Here's the list I've come up with for potential options:
Currently I run the 275 RC1 and like it but I definitely would like to try something else to see how other stuff compares.
The NT01 seems to be the tried and true golden standard.
The R888R I haven't been able to find much on but I'm not too optimistic about it as I've talked with enough people who don't like the old R888 and it's still the same compound.
The RA1 also seems like a good option but I'm not sure it can 1 up the NT01 except in maybe the rain.
The one that interests me the most is the FZ-201. I haven't been able to find much of anything on this tire but it seems to be used in a fair amount of series overseas. Also of interest is the fact it offers a med and soft compound while still remaining a 100tw. I'd love to hear if anyone has any feedback or knows anything more about these tires.
| Maxxis Victra RC1 | 275/35/18 | $255.00 |
| Nitto NT01 | 275/35/18 | $255.00 |
| Nitto NT01 | 315/30/18 | $340.00 |
| Toyo Proxes R888R | 295/30/18 | $255.00 |
| Toyo Proxes R888R | 315/30/18 | $285.00 |
| Toyo RA1 | 275/35/18 | $265.00 |
| Federal FZ-201 (med) | 285/30/18 | $185.00 |
| Federal FZ-201 (soft) | 265/35/18 | $185.00 |
Currently I run the 275 RC1 and like it but I definitely would like to try something else to see how other stuff compares.
The NT01 seems to be the tried and true golden standard.
The R888R I haven't been able to find much on but I'm not too optimistic about it as I've talked with enough people who don't like the old R888 and it's still the same compound.
The RA1 also seems like a good option but I'm not sure it can 1 up the NT01 except in maybe the rain.
The one that interests me the most is the FZ-201. I haven't been able to find much of anything on this tire but it seems to be used in a fair amount of series overseas. Also of interest is the fact it offers a med and soft compound while still remaining a 100tw. I'd love to hear if anyone has any feedback or knows anything more about these tires.
Dec 15, 2017, 01:22 PM
#37
I've been looking around at 100 treadwear tires the past couple months. Here's the list I've come up with for potential options:
Currently I run the 275 RC1 and like it but I definitely would like to try something else to see how other stuff compares.
The NT01 seems to be the tried and true golden standard.
The R888R I haven't been able to find much on but I'm not too optimistic about it as I've talked with enough people who don't like the old R888 and it's still the same compound.
The RA1 also seems like a good option but I'm not sure it can 1 up the NT01 except in maybe the rain.
The one that interests me the most is the FZ-201. I haven't been able to find much of anything on this tire but it seems to be used in a fair amount of series overseas. Also of interest is the fact it offers a med and soft compound while still remaining a 100tw. I'd love to hear if anyone has any feedback or knows anything more about these tires.
| Maxxis Victra RC1 | 275/35/18 | $255.00 |
| Nitto NT01 | 275/35/18 | $255.00 |
| Nitto NT01 | 315/30/18 | $340.00 |
| Toyo Proxes R888R | 295/30/18 | $255.00 |
| Toyo Proxes R888R | 315/30/18 | $285.00 |
| Toyo RA1 | 275/35/18 | $265.00 |
| Federal FZ-201 (med) | 285/30/18 | $185.00 |
| Federal FZ-201 (soft) | 265/35/18 | $185.00 |
Currently I run the 275 RC1 and like it but I definitely would like to try something else to see how other stuff compares.
The NT01 seems to be the tried and true golden standard.
The R888R I haven't been able to find much on but I'm not too optimistic about it as I've talked with enough people who don't like the old R888 and it's still the same compound.
The RA1 also seems like a good option but I'm not sure it can 1 up the NT01 except in maybe the rain.
The one that interests me the most is the FZ-201. I haven't been able to find much of anything on this tire but it seems to be used in a fair amount of series overseas. Also of interest is the fact it offers a med and soft compound while still remaining a 100tw. I'd love to hear if anyone has any feedback or knows anything more about these tires.
@ayoustin - As for the FZ-201, this is an R-Compound tire from what I've read. My guess is that it's not going to keep you in a street tire class. Do you know anyone who is selling these?
When I was running R-Compound tires and Full slick tires, I purchased run-offs (used tires) and had excellent results (~100/tire shipped). I'm not at a high level of competition so I didn't need (nor could I use) the absolute best 5-10% of the tire.
Dec 15, 2017, 02:24 PM
#38
I'm interested in going economy street tire for some Gridlife events next year. I've been looking at the Federal 595RS-R (140TW) ~ 255 for $130. Anyone have feedback on this tire on an Evo? I'm wanting to run 255 for class reasons (on 9.5" wheels).
@ayoustin - As for the FZ-201, this is an R-Compound tire from what I've read. My guess is that it's not going to keep you in a street tire class. Do you know anyone who is selling these?
When I was running R-Compound tires and Full slick tires, I purchased run-offs (used tires) and had excellent results (~100/tire shipped). I'm not at a high level of competition so I didn't need (nor could I use) the absolute best 5-10% of the tire.
@ayoustin - As for the FZ-201, this is an R-Compound tire from what I've read. My guess is that it's not going to keep you in a street tire class. Do you know anyone who is selling these?
When I was running R-Compound tires and Full slick tires, I purchased run-offs (used tires) and had excellent results (~100/tire shipped). I'm not at a high level of competition so I didn't need (nor could I use) the absolute best 5-10% of the tire.
I've spent a little time looking for used tires as well but they're few and far between for something this sticky and in the right size. Plus with me not planning to buy until I'm closer to being through my current tires means used isn't something I can plan on.
Dec 18, 2017, 06:42 AM
#41
I was under the impression that this tire couldn't hold up to the heat of TT/TA. I thought these got greasy really fast, and didn't last long as a result? I know this tire is extremely popular for AutoX, I thought it was too soft for a road course.
Dec 18, 2017, 08:50 AM
#45