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Old Jan 31, 2017, 09:37 AM
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SM is definitely only for the adventurous. But that's whats so great about it. Every year its just like a car show to see what new craziness the other guys are doing/have done.

Stuff that would just seem over the top and dumb in other classes is right up our alley. Like the S2000 with the "rocket engine" which I think is something about porting fuel to the manifold to spool a big turbo. Or the sequential trans in the Subaru from Colorado (drawing blanks on their names). All the aero, carbon, billet, electronics, 500+ hp, widebodies.... Gets me excited just thinking about it
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Yeah... I'm single, no kids, live in a cheap apartment, and work for a large tech company. I.e. I'm not a real adult yet, so I can do stupid things with my money...
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
SM is definitely only for the adventurous. But that's whats so great about it. Every year its just like a car show to see what new craziness the other guys are doing/have done.

Stuff that would just seem over the top and dumb in other classes is right up our alley. Like the S2000 with the "rocket engine" which I think is something about porting fuel to the manifold to spool a big turbo. Or the sequential trans in the Subaru from Colorado (drawing blanks on their names). All the aero, carbon, billet, electronics, 500+ hp, widebodies.... Gets me excited just thinking about it
Yeah, seeing Devin Ramsey's car at nats in 2015 made me start looking into sequentials... Then I realized that If I just build a motor that can rev high enough, I can "save" some money (read: throw less money down the well)
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Save is definitely relative. We'd all be AS in vettes if we were fiscally smart, but we arent
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Why do you think I've been codriving an FS M3 for the last couple seasons? Way cheaper to operate... although we chew through a set of tires in about 60 runs. I can't really foresee SS being any cheaper... rear heavy, rwd car and all. That and 305/30/19 RE71Rs are not cheap by any means. It's almost like buying Hoosiers all over again.

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73mph comes quickly, lol. 3rd at nats is generally still needed.
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Otis won FS with 100+ run bridgestones. They're nearly treadless and still fast.
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Otis won FS with 100+ run bridgestones. They're nearly treadless and still fast.
We cord them in less than 60 on the M3
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Originally Posted by psushoe
73mph comes quickly, lol. 3rd at nats is generally still needed.
I'm not sure about the SM guys, but I know that Robert Thorne was around 88mph through the finish chute in the SSM Big Bad Wolf last year. I had to shift to 3rd in Brausen's FP car, and he's got the 4.11 final gearing (albeit on 16" tires).
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2 years ago at crows tour I was about 85mph coming into the back sweeper and 3 years ago at Nats I had to shift to 3rd 5 times. That left course (cant remember east/west) just totally screwed with my head trying to downshift that many times.
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2014 Nats, I think you're talking about the east course. We shifted 3 times I believe... That was with an 8400 limiter that got us to about 70.
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Originally Posted by Meathooker
we try not to rev over 8k on our 2.2L

looked at changing the final drive but its a tough call as all hills/courses are different

Do you have a 153mm rod on the 94mm crank? If so, it's good to 9500.

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I'm revving to 8200 on the 2.3l and on a 25.3" tire. Local events I keep it to 7500 but let it stretch for bigger events if I need it. That puts me at 70.X mph but I think next year I'm switching back to the 285 to get lower and will swap to 4.31:1 final drive ratio which will put me at 72.X mph.

I should probably also pull the motor after this next season (3rd season on it) and just inspect things, replace rings and bearings, re-hone, etc. But its been pretty rock solid so far.


I would magnuflux the crank as well. Measure the pistons to make sure they are within spec. The 100mm crank and 150mm rods beat the **** out of everything.

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on one hand, jealous of the builds you guys can do.

on other, glad I'm restricted because $$$
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Originally Posted by RJones
I'm not sure about the SM guys, but I know that Robert Thorne was around 88mph through the finish chute in the SSM Big Bad Wolf last year. I had to shift to 3rd in Brausen's FP car, and he's got the 4.11 final gearing (albeit on 16" tires).
I had to be 83 minimum, but would need to check data. That was also up until my tob blew apart and locked me out #smlyfe
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Do you have a 153mm rod on the 94mm crank? If so, it's good to 9500.
we do and that is what ive heard as well. but we beat on our car for 2 minutes a run so i try to be conservative with it.

and if we get into pikes this year it will be abused for 12 minutes
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Originally Posted by Meathooker
we do and that is what ive heard as well. but we beat on our car for 2 minutes a run so i try to be conservative with it.

and if we get into pikes this year it will be abused for 12 minutes
Not saying you're wrong, but my stock 2.0L rev's to 8k for 30 minute sessions. If you needed extra RPM to stretch a gear at the end of a straight, I'm sure your motor can handle it.

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