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Old Feb 16, 2017, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo VI.
Have you tried 10w60?
Most evos in Europe use it on built engines and track focused evos.

Total or Liquimoly? Ive been researching on my end.
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kidloco51
Total or Liquimoly? Ive been researching on my end.
Not sure what would be preferred in the US, but I use Fully Synthetic Triple Ester Nanodrive Low Friction Technology Formulation. Millers CFS.
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Old Feb 17, 2017, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by killerpenguin21
totally depends on the oil.
I'm using Amsoil Dominator 15w-50. I've done 30+ track days in my Camaro with Mobil 1 15w-50 on stock bottom end and that car runs 210F oil trmp on the street and 260-300F on track. Never had a problem. In the Evo, temps are much lower and I'm using a better oil, which I replace every 2 events. That's why I'm not too worried about 240F oil temps, though I think I probably would have higher temps if I ran the car in 100F ambient temps and redline shifted it every lap, which I avoid. I am planning to do Blackstone analysis this year as well to make sure things are healthy.
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Old Feb 17, 2017, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo VI.
Have you tried 10w60?
Most evos in Europe use it on built engines and track focused evos.
I have not. Wouldn't engine clearances need to be tailored to the thicker 60 weight? My engine builder recommends 50 weight, so I think I'll stick with the thinner stuff.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo VI.
Not sure what would be preferred in the US, but I use Fully Synthetic Triple Ester Nanodrive Low Friction Technology Formulation. Millers CFS.
I wish we could get Millers here easily.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo VI.
Fully Synthetic Triple Ester Nanodrive Low Friction Technology Formulation
That is a whole mess of adverbs and adjectives. Here in 'MERICA we don't buy nothin' with a name longer than two syllables.
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Originally Posted by nollij
That is a whole mess of adverbs and adjectives. Here in 'MERICA we don't buy nothin' with a name longer than two syllables.
It's a description.
It's called Millers CFS Nanodrive.
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 02:49 PM
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Your setup looks good to me. I've always run 24-25psi for track tunes. I've used everything from stock turbo and O2 housing, to aftermarket O2 + FP Green. Pump gas, e85, you name it.
my oil gets WAY hotter than yours before I take a cool down lap (Rotella T6 before, 50w VR1 with FP turbo) . Stock oil cooler and radiator (with Evans, as opposed to water).
No problems. You should be fine.
edit: 340whp on stock turbo, 450Whp ever since.
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Old Oct 13, 2017, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by codgi
Yeah HPDE with the longer sessions put a lot more heat and stress in the system. Like Dallas said you want to do what you can to get that boost controllable and predictable as well. So it's worth pulling that down to get that solved as opposed to having to pull it down for other reasons IMO.
I finally pulled the ebay O2 housing off, without removing the turbo (yay nickel antiseize used in previous installation), and ported out the passage for wastegate flow. It wasn’t that small, but I mostly removed the internal wall in the housing. Took care of the creep issue.
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
I finally pulled the ebay O2 housing off, without removing the turbo (yay nickel antiseize used in previous installation), and ported out the passage for wastegate flow. It wasn’t that small, but I mostly removed the internal wall in the housing. Took care of the creep issue.
By "wall" you mean the separator between the WGA and turbine portions?
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By "wall" you mean the separator between the WGA and turbine portions?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
Yes.
And it helped? Noted (I literally have a notebook full of informational bits LOL).
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No before pics, but here’s the after porting result:





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those sheet metal o2 housing dont last very long for heavy track use. i've seen many cracked on track. get a cast stainless one, usually dont have divided ports, so you wont have that boost creep also.
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Originally Posted by honda-guy
those sheet metal o2 housing dont last very long for heavy track use. i've seen many cracked on track. get a cast stainless one, usually dont have divided ports, so you wont have that boost creep also.
Now you tell me! Any recommendations on brand?
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