nemsin

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How about instead of a personal attack you contribute some useful info. Your post about WORKS gave no details. Just another "they are bad because I heard it on the internet" post from you. Do you have any personal experience with WORKS?

RazorLab

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You are more than welcome to do your own homework and look through the history of the local forums and facebook groups.

As far as contributing useful info, again, you are more than welcome to look through the history of my posts here, on local forums and facebook to see my contributions for yourself.

nemsin

iTrader: (19)

Its not my homework. This thread is to help OP. Something you are failing at.

Biggiesacks

If you want something done right.... Hit up harbor freight with $200 bucks and you can get everything you need to do all the regular maintenance for the life of the car (minus the wear items). Saves you a ton of money in the long run, keeps you in tune with whats going on with your car, and you know it was done right. You may find that you actually enjoy doing the work yourself, which is a nice side bonus. You can even download the factory service manual for free.

dangtheheo

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I do a lot of the little, easier things myself in my driveway (no space in the garage). I've fixed many things on my other cars myself as well (Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans, Minis, etc). But there are some things, I'd feel more confident if I had a reputable shop that knows their way around Evos and have better tools to perform the work --- especially since this is my first Mitsubishi/Evo.

The one service I'm really looking to do is the timing belt and related components --- I've looked up many guides and I'm sure I can do it myself, but I'm not sure how long it'll take me, and there's a great chance I'll **** it up. The other thing I might consider having them do is all the fluids... because it will be easier if its already on a lift.

So far, I appreciate the recos for the couple of shops around here. I've inquired with one of them and just waiting to hear back. I was hoping for some reputable place around San Jose. I know of a few shops around San Jose, but they're either more generalized or they are flaky (unresponsive, etc).

Also, anyone on the FB's Bay Area Evo Owners Classified group? I can't seem to get approved to join... lol.

Biggiesacks

Timing belt isn't a hard job. The First time i did it, it took me a weekend. Screwing up is fine as long as you make sure that you correct it before trying to start the engine. The Key is to just double, triple check that everything is aligned properly and thats it. Also change the balance shaft belt and replace the water pump while your at it. Doing all that yourself will cost a little less then half (Depending on the shop rates etc) then having the shop do it. Because of all the money you are saving you will be less tempted to skip things, and also be more proactive with replacing things like the water pump, and thus will increase the reliability overall.

Dave W.

I don't recommend attempting a timing belt job unless you're absolutely sure you can follow each and every step in the manual. There's too much risk involved if you get it wrong, especially for a first-timer. I've been fixing other shops botched timing belt jobs for over 15 years and it still amazes me that people still get it wrong with all the help and tech info available on the net.

TheHolyLancer

i still don't know if works is good or not. i wish the evo sf bay fb group would let me in to see this supposed evidence. i am new here and don't know if nemsin is a known troll or something so I honestly don't know what is up with works or the feud. this is from http://www.yelp.com/biz/works-motorsports-sonoma that is. could be full of yelp **** but i don't know where else to get easy reviews (maybe they name changed?)

i tried FFTEC and they were responsive, but the prices they offered vs that from the dealer for me wasn't too huge.

until I have a major job where that price difference becomes high, or my experience with sal goes badly I may just go with the dealer for now.

Biggiesacks

Thats the thing, if you can read and understand the manual/guides then its very straight forward. I guess your experience is just a testament to peoples lack of reading comprehension.

nemsin

iTrader: (19)

All I can tell you is I found WORKS to be both knowledgeable and professional. Thus, I had a positive experience with them. Undoubtedly there is at least one unhappy WORKS customer on the internet somewhere. Why not pay them a visit and see what you think for yourself.

Matz

iTrader: (3)

I was hesistant to respond, but oh well, I'll offer my experience since I have nothing to lose.

When I first bought my Evo, WORKS is all I knew. The original crew that I was introduced to were definitely a group of friendly and helpful guys. They did install my 269 cams and I never had any issues with the work they did there.

You will find tons of WORKS haters out there. I don't know all of the reasons, but for sure one thing they dinged on is over-priced parts. I love their exhaust, but the strut tower braces were (from what I could tell) copies of APR parts and marked up. You can get similar other parts for way cheaper elsewhere.

I think a lot of issues were around their secrecy and also supposed superior knowledge about tuning. Personally, I wish I could still just drive over to GST and get my Evo tuned, but unfortunately that option is no longer available. I can't say anything more about their tunes because of my lack of experience (I did have a P1 tune at one time, long ago), but I will say that I'd give one of my kidneys to have razorlab in my car on the dyno again.

I decided to not go there anymore after a service visit, where my wheels were overtorqued to eleventy billion ft-lbs. I had a thread on NorCalEvo (remember them? or maybe it was EvoEmpire?) a long time ago, where my spline drive snapped when I tried to remove the lugs. I literally had to stand on a 12 ft pipe to break them free, but ended up snapping a stud... which resulted in massive drilling, and the following ridicule when I was killing bits due to drilling too fast.

One favorite memory was when I asked if I could get one of their big stickers (the one with the big stripes) on my car, and they said I had to pay $800 for the license (or whatever they may have called it) to do so. Wow.

I'm not trying to bash them here. They did serve me well early on when I had just gotten my Evo. As the community got more knowledgeable, I think it became harder to prove that they had superior knowledge about the Evo.

Olegator

Thanks for the honest feedback about Works. I would assign your over torqued lug nuts to a "noob with a tool" problem. 800$ for Works sticker? They probably just didn't have any at all...but still a ****ty thing to say on their part.

desiromeo812

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Bains tuning