2004 Lancer Sportback Ralliart AT Build
Jul 7, 2013, 10:44 PM
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As long as you didn't boost hard before parking it is not really necessary but if you really want one.
say's it's universal. I have never had a turbo car so I wouldn't know if this is a good product but its 47 bucks
Jul 8, 2013, 08:50 AM
#709
As long as you didn't boost hard before parking it is not really necessary but if you really want one. Apexi say's it's universal. I have never had a turbo car so I wouldn't know if this is a good product but its 47 bucks
don't drive it hard and then immediately park and turn the engine off, even with a water cooled turbo like mine, i let the engine idle for a minute before turning the engine off, if you drive like a civilized person on your way to the grocery store or whatever, you can just switch it off...
Jul 8, 2013, 09:28 AM
#710
this...
don't drive it hard and then immediately park and turn the engine off, even with a water cooled turbo like mine, i let the engine idle for a minute before turning the engine off, if you drive like a civilized person on your way to the grocery store or whatever, you can just switch it off...
don't drive it hard and then immediately park and turn the engine off, even with a water cooled turbo like mine, i let the engine idle for a minute before turning the engine off, if you drive like a civilized person on your way to the grocery store or whatever, you can just switch it off...
Jul 8, 2013, 10:05 AM
#711
I don't think he means overrated just not needed.. There are tons of cars turbocharged and advertised for older generations who drive civilized.. I always thought the turbo timers where cool but after thinking about it the car is running with you away from the car what if for example you have a leak but don't notice when you hop out and go wherever your going and the car kills itself Because its not going to know its overheating or leaking.. Maybe there are some sophisticated systems that do detect it and I'm just talking out my ****
Jul 8, 2013, 10:17 AM
#712
" Ummm..." driving civilized" and "turbo" is a contradiction, isn't it"...was more rhetoric than anything... 
My thought (which ain't worth much) is along the lines of their original intentions, and that is to prolong the life of the turbo center cartridge by allowing the oil to cool down and circulate through that small compartment of the turbo, which contains small, high tolerance parts and seals which seem to be the most common point of turbo wear and tear and failures. Oil gets hot, even with normal driving, and when it stops circulating, at temperature, on small, high tolerance moving parts, the hot residual oil thickens and sludges, which will, over time, causes failure. If it is allowed to cool and circulate, this prolongs it's longevity, similar to our own pump, the heart. Instead of oil, we have a viscous fluid called blood, which, if renewed/changed and circulated properly, through proper diet and exercise (accompanied with a "cool down" period), it will prolong our life. If allowed to thicken/sludge by improper care, the engine fails, specifically the coronary arteries (small, high tolerance parts), which spasm/clog thus causing an myocardial infarction (MI), a heart attack.
Yes, allowing your car to idle after driving accomplishes the same thing, but timers are added for convenience as well. Did I just convince myself? Probably not...
My thought (which ain't worth much) is along the lines of their original intentions, and that is to prolong the life of the turbo center cartridge by allowing the oil to cool down and circulate through that small compartment of the turbo, which contains small, high tolerance parts and seals which seem to be the most common point of turbo wear and tear and failures. Oil gets hot, even with normal driving, and when it stops circulating, at temperature, on small, high tolerance moving parts, the hot residual oil thickens and sludges, which will, over time, causes failure. If it is allowed to cool and circulate, this prolongs it's longevity, similar to our own pump, the heart. Instead of oil, we have a viscous fluid called blood, which, if renewed/changed and circulated properly, through proper diet and exercise (accompanied with a "cool down" period), it will prolong our life. If allowed to thicken/sludge by improper care, the engine fails, specifically the coronary arteries (small, high tolerance parts), which spasm/clog thus causing an myocardial infarction (MI), a heart attack.
Yes, allowing your car to idle after driving accomplishes the same thing, but timers are added for convenience as well. Did I just convince myself? Probably not...
Last edited by truthdweller; Jul 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM.
Jul 8, 2013, 11:04 AM
#714
Isnt your turbo water cooled as well. Besides, who cooks their turbo just before a stop? Only scenario I can imagine is if you're late as hell for the airport.
Edit: and if whomever is worried about oil sludging switch to synthetic. Synthetic doesn't sludge, it ashes and besides if you're turboed imo you should go synthetic anyway.
Edit: and if whomever is worried about oil sludging switch to synthetic. Synthetic doesn't sludge, it ashes and besides if you're turboed imo you should go synthetic anyway.
Last edited by Green_Bandit; Jul 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM.
Jul 8, 2013, 11:11 AM
#715
Isnt your turbo water cooled as well. Besides, who cooks their turbo just before a stop? Only scenario I can imagine is if you're late as hell for the airport.
Edit: and if whomever is worried about oil sludging switch to synthetic. Synthetic doesn't sludge, it ashes and besides if you're turboed imo you should go synthetic anyway.
Edit: and if whomever is worried about oil sludging switch to synthetic. Synthetic doesn't sludge, it ashes and besides if you're turboed imo you should go synthetic anyway.
Nope, not water cooled...and, yep, synthetic. Didn't know about "ashes." Good info...
Jul 8, 2013, 06:25 PM
#717
From an un-named reliable source:
"I always drive my car slowly into my neighbourhood. This is sufficient to cool the turbo down even if I have driven the car hard immediately before. I do not have a turbo timer on any of my cars and have never cooked my bearings."
More gifts arrived today therefore more progress at the shop:
Lastly, showing that the intake pipe slides easily under the transmission lines and over the lower radiator hose:
"I always drive my car slowly into my neighbourhood. This is sufficient to cool the turbo down even if I have driven the car hard immediately before. I do not have a turbo timer on any of my cars and have never cooked my bearings."
More gifts arrived today therefore more progress at the shop:
Lastly, showing that the intake pipe slides easily under the transmission lines and over the lower radiator hose:
Last edited by truthdweller; Jul 8, 2013 at 07:25 PM.
Jul 8, 2013, 07:58 PM
#718
Question: Does the oil feed flange have to be directly on top of the turbo @ 12 o'clock? For one of the allen wrench bolts on the oil feed flange hides underneath the bottom turbo manifold flange, and I cannot access it if I need to. To remedy this I can clock the feed flange at 1 o'clock , which puts the oil return flange @7 o'clock instead of 6 o'clock. Will this hinder proper oil return?
Hackish: "For the turbo, 1 o'clock and 7 o'clock are acceptable. When I installed these things I used a different sort of supply connection so it was never an issue. Sometimes ball end allen keys can be your friend."
Hackish: "For the turbo, 1 o'clock and 7 o'clock are acceptable. When I installed these things I used a different sort of supply connection so it was never an issue. Sometimes ball end allen keys can be your friend."
Last edited by truthdweller; Jul 9, 2013 at 07:04 AM.
ITS SO CLOSE!!! :P