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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Question No start issue

ok, back story... car cut of pulling into parking lot at work, initially thought it was due to overheating, changed the thermostat, no start, pulled the spark plugs, coated in oil, pulled the head, the gasket didn't seem blown, but had head checked for warping, was within specs, went ahead and had it cleaned and all seals replaced, put it back together, no start, pulled timing cover, belt looked good, but because it didn't start, I pulled the bottom cover off, found about 6-7 belt teeth missing, changed the bed and crank position sensor and lower cover (due to the sensor wire being busted), set timing and put all back together, put new spark plugs, New coil packs, and new cam position sensor, and checked all other wiring to make sure all were in place, and you guessed it, no start, then check for injector pulse, that was good, fuel pressure was good, them pulled a spark plug to see if I was getting spark (obviously checked more than one, still nothing), am thinking it might be the PCM, but wanted to see if anyone had any other ideas, or am I going the right direction?
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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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you lost me...you pulled the head, had it worked on, then put it back on using the old timing belt before actually inspecting the timing belt?


your run-on sentence makes very little sense, and it seems like you could have saved money by having a mechanic look it, judging by the amount of parts you changed without having any idea what the problem is.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 09:18 AM
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All that work and no pics?
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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"pulled a spark plug to see if I was getting spark (obviously checked more than one, still nothing)"

I cannot tell if you had ignition.

Have you checked all fuses inside the engine and passenger compartments ?
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RalliartN
All that work and no pics?
sorry wasn't on this site yet, didn't even think about taking pictures
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 2006_RA
"pulled a spark plug to see if I was getting spark (obviously checked more than one, still nothing)"

I cannot tell if you had ignition.

Have you checked all fuses inside the engine and passenger compartments ?
I was not getting ignition on any cylinder, all fuses are good
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 09:25 AM
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double check valve timing, and make sure the cam and crank sensors are making good contact (electrically).
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Old May 2, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAnSwIcK
double check valve timing, and make sure the cam and crank sensors are making good contact (electrically).
ok, I went over all the connections, all were intact. While I was getting ready for the new timing belt, I checked the head for damage, everything looked fine. Got the timing belt back on with all the timing marks lined up. I cranked it, and it still wouldn't start. So then I checked for injector pulse and got the proper readings. I then checked the connector for the coil pack and got about 10 volts constant, good ground, but no pulse voltage??? It is getting no spark what-so-ever. Am I missing something?
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Old May 2, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAnSwIcK
you lost me...you pulled the head, had it worked on, then put it back on using the old timing belt before actually inspecting the timing belt?


your run-on sentence makes very little sense, and it seems like you could have saved money by having a mechanic look it, judging by the amount of parts you changed without having any idea what the problem is.
sorry about that, got some of the steps out of order that they were actually done in. However, most of the parts were in need of replacing, except for maybe the cam sensor, still not sure on that one. The timing belt was kind of a surprise though, had been able to get it in time before I had finally pulled the bottom cover off, and found some teeth missing off the belt, so it was only jumping out of time when it was cranked, that is when I decided to check out the bottom half.
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Old May 2, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kawarob78
ok, I went over all the connections, all were intact. While I was getting ready for the new timing belt, I checked the head for damage, everything looked fine. Got the timing belt back on with all the timing marks lined up. I cranked it, and it still wouldn't start. So then I checked for injector pulse and got the proper readings. I then checked the connector for the coil pack and got about 10 volts constant, good ground, but no pulse voltage??? It is getting no spark what-so-ever. Am I missing something?

did you try firing a plug rather than metering the connector? your explanation of the order you did things is still ambiguous...as it sits, the timing belt is brand new, timing is set correctly, and the cam shaft moves when you crank it?


pull the plugs one at a time, and test compression (testers are pretty cheap) post the results...also while the plug is out, this is when you can fire the plug with the coil.
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 10:48 AM
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Hey I'm having the same issue but my car only runs on starter fluid changed just about everything listed above but still won't start
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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Hey I am having the same issue but my car only runs on starter fluid. I changed just about the same parts listed above
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Old Jul 1, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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lol, double post fail.


anyways I replied to your thread.
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