Piggyback Maps
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Piggyback Maps
In the event that you think PM'ing me questions about tuning is a good idea, think again. I monitor this thread, so post your questions here. I also look for other threads I created to come back from the depths, so feel free to post any questions directed at me in those threads as well.
From this point forward if you send me a PM regarding an open topic I will merely copy a link for you to visit.
And the reasoning behind it you ask? because if I answer 10000 pm's 10000 people will know the answer, but if I post in a thread just once there is an infinite number of potential benefactors. Get it? now cooperate DAMMIT!!!
We should start sharing our maps, so here is the thread
1. Post your map or a screenshot of the map.
2. State whether or not you know if the AFR is safe according to a dyno run.
3. State all of your mods that affect tuning.
4. Tell us your location for altitude and temperature purposes.
To show good faith I'll go first.
From this point forward if you send me a PM regarding an open topic I will merely copy a link for you to visit.
And the reasoning behind it you ask? because if I answer 10000 pm's 10000 people will know the answer, but if I post in a thread just once there is an infinite number of potential benefactors. Get it? now cooperate DAMMIT!!!
We should start sharing our maps, so here is the thread
1. Post your map or a screenshot of the map.
2. State whether or not you know if the AFR is safe according to a dyno run.
3. State all of your mods that affect tuning.
4. Tell us your location for altitude and temperature purposes.
To show good faith I'll go first.
Last edited by DangerousDan; Jul 18, 2007 at 10:40 AM.
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My maps
I am not sure what to think of this software, and that's one of the reasons I think we should share.
I have RRM downpipe, highflow cat, flowthrough muffler, short ram intake, and underdrive pulley. I live in Charlotte NC and the "professional tune" was done at like 80F, and the AFR was ok. The second map I have not had on the dyno, hell I don't even know if it's any different to the car.
The first map was done by a tuner (P1 Automotive)who said he was unfamiliar with the software. It took him and I around thirty minutes to figure it out. I also think we may have inadvertently erased the RRM map.
I think it should look more like the second map, and I have another thread going to figure the software out.
In any case, I started so who's next?
Edit: I have since figured out the problem with my maps and software. see the linked thread.
New Maps below.
UPDATED MODS!! See post #32
I have RRM downpipe, highflow cat, flowthrough muffler, short ram intake, and underdrive pulley. I live in Charlotte NC and the "professional tune" was done at like 80F, and the AFR was ok. The second map I have not had on the dyno, hell I don't even know if it's any different to the car.
The first map was done by a tuner (P1 Automotive)who said he was unfamiliar with the software. It took him and I around thirty minutes to figure it out. I also think we may have inadvertently erased the RRM map.
I think it should look more like the second map, and I have another thread going to figure the software out.
In any case, I started so who's next?
Edit: I have since figured out the problem with my maps and software. see the linked thread.
New Maps below.
UPDATED MODS!! See post #32
Last edited by DangerousDan; Mar 13, 2007 at 05:37 AM. Reason: updated mod list
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Just want to point something out. I'm all for the this thread, people should share maps, HOWEVER: It is against this forum's policy to share vendor maps. This means no posting of RRM's maps or any maps other vendors, such as RPW and Dynoflash, may come out with in the future. These maps are the intellectual property and product of the vendors.
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Originally Posted by otter
Just want to point something out. I'm all for the this thread, people should share maps, HOWEVER: It is against this forum's policy to share vendor maps. This means no posting of RRM's maps or any maps other vendors, such as RPW and Dynoflash, may come out with in the future. These maps are the intellectual property and product of the vendors.
Maybe Rob can enlighten us as to which version piggyback and what's up with the RPM's? I guess he could also release the original base map for the reasons I mentioned above, since it belongs to him.
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Basically, RRM put the R&D into the map they're selling, and the map that comes with the piggyback is part of a product that they're selling and sustaining their business with. Not that it's a large possibility with so few companies tuning for the Ralliart, however, another company could get ahold of RRM's map and set the values in their own piggyback and sell that at a lower price. It'd be stealing RRM's work and using it against them.
The forum's policy is firm on this.
The forum's policy is firm on this.
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?stickie please? this is good to have.
Once I get my stuff from RRM and put it in im going for a tune. So this gives me a week to screw with my PC and try to remember how to take a screen shot.
Once I get my stuff from RRM and put it in im going for a tune. So this gives me a week to screw with my PC and try to remember how to take a screen shot.
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Originally Posted by otter
Basically, RRM put the R&D into the map they're selling, and the map that comes with the piggyback is part of a product that they're selling and sustaining their business with. Not that it's a large possibility with so few companies tuning for the Ralliart, however, another company could get ahold of RRM's map and set the values in their own piggyback and sell that at a lower price. It'd be stealing RRM's work and using it against them.
The forum's policy is firm on this.
The forum's policy is firm on this.
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RPM's in R4 software
If your RPM's do not register properly in your software you need to read this thread.
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Here is my latest map, turn off word wrap in notepad to view properly. I used charts from my dyno runs, one stock and one with the p1 map, with the afr mapped against the rpm and figured out the best values for my car. This is a very basic map, and is very conservative for the mods on my car. I don't know the afr for this map, but I was shooting for 13.1. Again, this is a mathematically generated map, and has not dyno'ed safe.
Mods: RRM downpipe, highflow cat, highflow muffler, RRM pulley, custom SRI.
Map: NOT DYNO'ED
Mods: RRM downpipe, highflow cat, highflow muffler, RRM pulley, custom SRI.
Map: NOT DYNO'ED
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Anyone else with a custom tune? No one wants to play with the software? I am still only making minor changes until I have the wideband stuff, I don't want to hurt the car. Anyone else messing around yet?
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Maps
I dyno tune my piggyback, and the guy said that he was familiar with the software but he tune it with the aditional injector and gauge pressure after an hour or so he just got 12hp and the fuel mixture was 13.99
Here is my map from 15psi to 20.5 the rest of the psi are left to 10
Here is my map from 15psi to 20.5 the rest of the psi are left to 10