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Ralliart367 Nov 7, 2012 05:17 PM

Gears won't go in
 
Just wondering if its normal for a gear not to go in if your going to fast for it, if I'm slowing down and need to downshift gears won't go in unless I'm going slow enough for them. Is this like gear synchronizers or is it the clutch or is it normal? I hate it sometimes trying to turn into a driveway but 2nd to first wont go so I have to almost stop all the way before 1st will slide in. Also my second gear feels weird going in it feels more mechanical and crunchy then smooth, just wondering if that's a problem. Kinda new to cars and stuff but I'm learning(:

CrAnSwIcK Nov 7, 2012 10:57 PM

you should never have to downshift to first gear while in motion, if you do, you should come to a near complete stop anyways...and for example if you're doing 70mph 2nd gear could damage the engine and puts a lot of stress on the clutch/transmission....

lanzerralliart Nov 8, 2012 01:27 AM

Yeah I agree with crans. I never downshift to 1st nor would I recommend it. 1st has always been really touquey so I wouldn't push the limits there.

RalliartN Nov 8, 2012 04:54 AM

I'll bet you have non-OEM tranny fluid. Go with stock fluid or one of the synchro-mesh types like Redline MTL or BG.

johnnycage Nov 8, 2012 12:16 PM

The only time you would ever downshift to 1st is if your in 2nd and the rpm is 3000 or less. Example would be on an icy bridge. If you decide to do this, make sure its really smooth. If the car wants to jerk, your rpm is way too high.

Thomar Nov 9, 2012 10:50 AM

I'm of the opinion that yes you can shift into first while moving, but you will find that the slower you go, the easier it will shift into 1st gear. You should never force it but rather just let it pop into gear with a little assistance. Make love to it, not war. lol.

rzrxn Nov 13, 2012 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Thomar (Post 10498853)
I'm of the opinion that yes you can shift into first while moving, but you will find that the slower you go, the easier it will shift into 1st gear. You should never force it but rather just let it pop into gear with a little assistance. Make love to it, not war. lol.

LOL this has been my solution ever since i got my car {thumbup}

"be a lover, not a fighter" when it comes to your tranny :cool:

2006_RA Nov 13, 2012 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Thomar (Post 10498853)
I'm of the opinion that yes you can shift into first while moving, but you will find that the slower you go, the easier it will shift into 1st gear. You should never force it but rather just let it pop into gear with a little assistance. Make love to it, not war. lol.

Rev match and it goes in quite effortlessly.

QuanVN Nov 13, 2012 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by 2006_RA (Post 10504964)
Rev match and it goes in quite effortlessly.

+1
I always rev match while downshifting to 1st pulling into the driveway

CrAnSwIcK Nov 13, 2012 01:54 PM

i downshift to 1st in my driveway, but like i said, i'm at a near stop when i do...1st gear is so touchy, anything above 3000 RPM is way too torquey for any situation

nekkidlad Nov 14, 2012 09:36 AM

I find downshifting to 1st is all but unnecessary...like its been said above...too much torque...as soon as u downshift and hit the gas u gotta shift back up to 2nd anyway...

even if u didnt downshift it's better to shift to 2nd quickly anyway...or ull be very jerky maneuvering around the parking lot or driveway(or w/e) if u stay in 1st...

RacerX-Ralliart Nov 14, 2012 05:24 PM

Man you guys must not know how to be smooth than I don't have a problem driving in first.. I downshift cause I don't like the sound of the engine luging around in second when coming to a stop light and it turns green right before I stop

Thomar Nov 14, 2012 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by nekkidlad (Post 10506773)
even if u didnt downshift it's better to shift to 2nd quickly anyway...or ull be very jerky maneuvering around the parking lot or driveway(or w/e) if u stay in 1st...

:confused:
I dont have that problem. I'm smooth as butter on olive oil. I rather shift into first gear than try to get going at too slow of a speed in second. You'll either lug the engine or slip the clutch.

CrAnSwIcK Nov 14, 2012 05:39 PM

when that happens i come to a near stop and shift to first, you don't want to downshift to first at 3000 rpm in second is all i'm saying.

strakele Nov 14, 2012 06:49 PM

I quite like this "feature." It prevents you from destroying the engine shifting into a gear that can't handle the speed you're going. Can't downshift into 1st above like 20mph. Same applies in 2nd. Go like 70 or 80 and try to shift into 2nd... you can't. I'd assume it's the same for all, but I haven't tried it for any higher gear.


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