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Old Jun 8, 2014, 12:48 PM
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I think I got it...

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exactly...it drives this guy:





which is connected to the speed sensor...this doesn't exist in an A/T transmission.
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How I'm understanding things is the speed sensor, which is mounted in the bell housing, senses the rotation of the differential via the helical gears machined into the diff case.
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bell housing houses the clutch and flywheel (or torque converter ). But yes the little gear for the manual transmission speed sensor runs off the diff...the automatic trans speed sensors take their readings from the shafts.

I'm fairly certain the A/T diffs don't have that gear, the part numbers are different between M/T and A/T. On a true helical LSD, that gear gets pressed on, the part number of the gear is for like a 1980's gallant, or something weird like that.

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Originally Posted by CrAnSwIcK
...the automatic trans speed sensors take their readings from the shafts.

What shafts...the CV axle shafts via the ABS sensor or the crank shafts? It must be the latter, for I have the ABS sensor pulled right now and I still have speedometer readings.
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Originally Posted by truthdweller
What shafts...the CV axle shafts via the ABS sensor or the crank shafts? It must be the latter, for I have the ABS sensor pulled right now and I still have speedometer readings.
lol no, input and output shaft speed.
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Oh, ok, I read that the Mercedes, I believe, uses the ABS system for speedometer readings. Bear with me I'm still learning. Remember, I only installed a turbo, lol!
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Originally Posted by truthdweller
How I'm understanding things is the speed sensor, which is mounted in the bell housing, senses the rotation of the differential via the helical gears machined into the diff case.
Actually, I was imagining that instead of the AT using the MT speedometer gear in the picture, that it used a sensor to detect the speed of the diff by using the helical grooves machined in the casing. Am I reading correctly that MT tranny's after 1990 use speed sensors instead of the speedo gear? That didn't make sense because yours uses one. That's why I assumed that my AT uses the newer sensor which take the readings off the diff, just as the Speedo gear does, but you're saying the sensor takes readings off of the input and output shafts of the transmission, correct?

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Originally Posted by truthdweller
Actually, I was imagining that instead of the AT using the MT speedometer gear in the picture, that it used a sensor to detect the speed of the diff by using the helical grooves machined in the casing. Am I reading correctly that MT tranny's after 1990 use speed sensors instead of the speedo gear? That didn't make sense because yours uses one. That's why I assumed that my AT uses the newer sensor which take the readings off the diff, just as the Speedo gear does, but you're saying the sensor takes readings off if the input and output shafts...of the ????

The manual transmission uses the gear on the diff to drive the speed sensor, which sends a signal to the ECU, which sends a signal to the speedometer...


The automatic has two shaft speed sensors, one on the input shaft and one on the output shaft. The ECU for the auto uses only the signal from the output shaft for vehicle speed. there are no sensors near the differential in the auto trans.
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