Hey guys, I'm thinking about checking out the RA again. I currently have a 2013 Genesis coupe 2.0t black base with auto. Its a decent car and the second one I've had. I never really had a problem with it until this winter as we've been smashed with a few snowstorms and I've almost got stuck several times already this year. I still have the all-seasons on it and can't really afford good snow tires at the moment. I know I would probably take a hit of a couple grand on trade-in, but I see even the 2014 RA models are going for about 4k off sticker. Problem is there doesn't seem to be any in my area. There is a red one a couple hours away in MI, but they are asking a bit over 27k. I found several black ones for just under 25k, but they are all several states away. Any idea where to find any other color and a good deal? I'm guessing they can trade for one at another dealership if you are serious.

 

Are you checking local craigs list too?

 

How is losing $2000 at trade-in better than spending $800 on a set of winter tires? Sure, the AWC on the Ralliart is awesome, but you need to realize that like any other car it will be absolutely terrible on ice and in deep snow until you put some winter tires on it too... You don't even need "good" ones. ANY winter tires are a lot better in the snow than ALL all-season tires.

 

Yeah AlDim is right .. stock tires for an RA are performance summer tires and they suck in the snow so your still going to be forking out $ for tires either way.

Unless you can work out a deal with dealer to throw in steelies and winter set.

Look at South Coast Mitsubishi in LA. They usually have the most RA's in stock of any dealer, they should be able to ship it to a local dealer, it's worth checking it out.

 

That sucks. I thought I read somewhere the stock tires were all-seasons. It must have been a misprint. I do have an extra set of stock genesis 18" wheels with decent DWS tires in the back, but the fronts need replaced. I don't know if they would fit an RA or not?
It does look like CA has the best selection and prices at the moment.

 

Well, here's how I would describe the performance of the different types of tires during the winter:

- Summer tires = will definitely kill you during the winter; the higher performance, the quicker they will kill you; braking in cold weather is terrible even in dry conditions
- All-season tires = probably won't kill you if you drive like a nun; could easily kill you in very poor conditions; will not be as hard as plastic in cold weather, but braking will still suffer a fair bit
- High performance all-season tires (that's what the Ralliart comes with) = they pretend they won't kill you during the winter, but are almost as bad as summer tires; change them as quickly as possible if you think you might encounter snow or ice
- Winter tires = drive like a reasonable human being and you'll do great and won't be a danger to yourself and everybody else on the road unlike all of the above tire options
- All-weather tires = winter tires you can drive throughout the entire year; great for people who are too lazy to change tires

 

Good post AlDim. Like I said I have the Continental DWS on the rears of my 2nd set and they do a pretty good job in the winter until they start getting worn down and then they are like all-seasons. My plan was to get a set for the front wheels and switch wheels for the winter but funds didn't allow this year. However I just got a new 2nd job so I can probably afford to get them now. I'm still debating if I should just get some "better" AS for the front as I found some cheap tires that have got good reviews in light snow or some winter tires for the front (although I hear its not good to mix different types of tires). Another option would be to get some cheap 17" wheels with winter tires and just thought of this-sell my 2nd set to pay for most of it. I still may at least call one of those dealers to see if a trade-in would be close to reasonable. I doubt it, but I did get a letter from Hyundai stating they would buy back my car for what I owe on it if I bought a new one.

 

I have General Tires GMax and they are great in the winter so much better than any other all season tires.

 

My 2013 Ralliart came with yokohama advan summer tires.

 

Depends on where you are. In Canada Ralliarts come with Dunlop SP 5000M which are summer tires disguised as all-seasons. I'll never forget the terrifying week I spend driving with them in deep snow in 2012... Though it wasn't nearly as bad as the one day I spent driving on a bit of snow with my Michelin Pilot Super Sports a couple of months ago. The car was literally sliding sideways while almost stopped and I had to do like 5-10km/h in the corners to avoid crashing.

 

Yeah the last ad I checked out in IL said it had the advan summer tires. It seems like they would put all seasons on an awd car esp. in areas where they know we get bad weather in the winter. If I'm not mistaken, I think the WRX comes with summer tires too. btw, that ad had a white RA for just under 26k and a grey one for 29.5 and they look to have the same options. Still too far away and probably too much unless some dealer would give about what I owe on my car. I also wonder if anyone would switch out the summers for some all-seasons or a set of winter wheels to make a deal?

 

I've always wondered how do dealerships test drive the RA and EVO this time of year in snowy conditions on those summer tires..?
I lived in California at the time of my purchase so I never had to deal with it..

 

I bought the tires in the following link, so hopefully they're not the ones you're referring to, because so far I really like them. Here they are:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Speed+Rated%29

 

You have high performance all-seasons (acceptable in spring, summer, and fall, not too terrible in winter). I have max performance summer tires (amazing in spring, summer, and fall, way too terrible in winter).

Ultimately, summer tires are the way to go for all seasons that are not winter and winter tires are the perfect choice for temperatures under 7 degrees Celsius or on ice and snow. All-seasons are a compromise that doesn't do anything too well, but is OK for mild winter conditions.

Here's a very nice comparison:

 

^ Good video, shows you just how much of a difference winter tires do.