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RotorGlow Aug 17, 2009 08:24 PM

If you're doing a brake launch...
 
DO NOT hold it at 3000 rpm for more then 1/2 a second. I held it for like 1-2 seconds and it shut me car down in to "slow down" mode. I actually couldn't move my car until the warning went away. I also had to move the transmission to park, and then back to drive again. The guy behind me gave the finger as he drove past me, as I sat in the middle of an intersection (oh and mods, I wasnt racing, just trying to find the sweet spot for launching). I'm really starting to not like this transmission now...

Jyrk Aug 17, 2009 08:41 PM

^ iam sorry but practicing your launches at intersections probably isnt the brightest thing you could be doing. {pcfreak}{thumbdwn}

excessiveboost Aug 17, 2009 09:13 PM

AMS transmission cooling kit, That limp mode sucks

GiLizILL Aug 18, 2009 04:19 AM

i mentioned this awhile back ,lol.

boondoc Aug 18, 2009 04:30 AM

I think everyone know this by now. I haven't had it happend to me because I let other ppl make the mistake 1st :lol:. Like excessive said AMS cooler is a good investment.

JCGator42 Aug 18, 2009 06:09 AM

does holding it at 3k rpm for more than a few seconds cause the transmission to go past safe operating temp? or is there some kind of failsafe mode that doesn't want you to do this?

don't feel too bad about this transmission, the double clutch manuals in Lamborghinis do this in heavy traffic after just a few minutes, we paid less than 30k for these cars, they are paying 150k to 400k for theirs....I'm ok with that :D

boondoc Aug 18, 2009 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by JCGator42 (Post 7407622)
does holding it at 3k rpm for more than a few seconds cause the transmission to go past safe operating temp? or is there some kind of failsafe mode that doesn't want you to do this?

don't feel too bad about this transmission, the double clutch manuals in Lamborghinis do this in heavy traffic after just a few minutes, we paid less than 30k for these cars, they are paying 150k to 400k for theirs....I'm ok with that :D

Temp, the MR has the same issue.

jazket Aug 18, 2009 07:03 AM

you can't hold it for even a second past 3,000rpm - though AMS tranny cooler could get rid of that

Metall1ca Aug 18, 2009 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by jyrk (Post 7406736)
^ iam sorry but practicing your launches at intersections probably isnt the brightest thing you could be doing. {pcfreak}{thumbdwn}

+1

migs647 Aug 18, 2009 09:01 AM

The SST wasn't designed to have the brake and throttle on at the same time. When the brake is pressed in, the transmission queues the next gear and "feathers" engagement. When the gas is pressed in it full engages the transmission. When both are pressed in it swaps back and forth between fully engaged and feathering. I repeat, you can't do this.... especially in the Ralliart. The MR has launch control (which is still hard on the transmission), and knows to stop that mode when going less than 3 miles an hour.

jazket Aug 18, 2009 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Metall1ca (Post 7408195)
+1

There's always one idiot who takes a red light or a stop sign... I rather take a green light at 5mph so people on the other side could stare at my car (and people behind could hunk) :) and that'll give me time to react in case of anything!

don't be improving your launch skills on an intersection lol... you might also get a nasty ticket if a cop sees you speeding "off the hole"

Metall1ca Aug 18, 2009 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by migs647 (Post 7408212)
The SST wasn't designed to have the brake and throttle on at the same time. When the brake is pressed in, the transmission queues the next gear and "feathers" engagement. When the gas is pressed in it full engages the transmission. When both are pressed in it swaps back and forth between fully engaged and feathering. I repeat, you can't do this.... especially in the Ralliart. The MR has launch control (which is still hard on the transmission), and knows to stop that mode when going less than 3 miles an hour.

Very true, hence why the e-brake method yields better results. Like you stated though the transmission is still not designed to do this with too much frequency.

jazket Aug 18, 2009 11:14 AM

I tried that e-brake thing but that feels worse than brake-boosting the RA :-/

Metall1ca Aug 18, 2009 03:00 PM

I haven't tried it personally, haven't done either, but in theory it should be less strenuous on the transmission. Although to be clear, neither is remotely close to good or okay for it.

RotorGlow Aug 18, 2009 06:21 PM

I know clutch slippage isn't good for the tranny...but that's what warranties are for!


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