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crrowley12 Jun 21, 2011 07:46 PM

Car won't start
 
Hey guys I need some help. Hoping I can give you enough information on here, unlike the people that ask why is it smoking and that's all they say. I got my car tuned about 3 weeks ago and the past four days my car has had problems starting. A couple times in the morning I went out there and it wouldn't start on Saturday and Sunday. Saturday it finally started and Sunday I had to have my sister jump it. Yesterday and this morning I went out there and it fired right up, but then twice this afternoon it did the same thing again with not starting. I have a FAST key and it wouldn't even allow me to turn the key and the lights were off. When the car finally started the navi was reset. You can see the list of my mods below and I also have a boost gauge and wideband installed. I also have an amp and sub in the trunk. Hope there is enough info on here. Please give any input you can. Thank you in advance.

Jechttt Jun 21, 2011 08:00 PM

What fuse is the Wideband on? I can't see it draining the battery but something is up with it. Not sure how it got so low but start there?

Mad_SB Jun 22, 2011 04:25 AM

battery or alternator.... it's either not holding a charge or not charging properly.. if you still have warranty left take it to the dealer.

But as for the not starting... please give more detail.... does it crank but not start or will it not even crank when your having issues.... if it won't even crank then battery or alternator... if it cranks over fine but does not start then that is a whole other ball game.

crrowley12 Jun 22, 2011 06:06 AM

I will check the fuse here in a bit. I thought that I mentioned that the key wouldn't turn as in it won't even crank. I had thought that the alternator might be the issue. Would the mods I have done so far make it so they wouldn;t replace the alternator or battery?

Mad_SB Jun 22, 2011 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by crrowley12 (Post 9409242)
I will check the fuse here in a bit. I thought that I mentioned that the key wouldn't turn as in it won't even crank. I had thought that the alternator might be the issue. Would the mods I have done so far make it so they wouldn;t replace the alternator or battery?

You mentioned it would not let you turn the key but did not specify that it did this every time....

When you say it won't let you turn the key... are you saying the "key" won't turn at all as if the steering wheel lock were engaged? or when you turn the key to the start position nothing happens?

As for mods and warranty... they won't like the intake, absolutely won't like the boost control mod, may complain that the stereo mods are responsible for the battery / alternator issues... just depends on the dealer.

crrowley12 Jun 22, 2011 08:38 AM

The key won't turn at all, but I don't think it is because of the steering wheel lock. The door lights won't turn on either when it does this. I figured they wouldn't like the mods, but I don't think they should have affected the alternator. We will see if that is the issue.

jkennedy293 Jun 22, 2011 09:13 AM

If the battery is dead then the car portion of the FAST key system can't detect the key, so it will remain in an immobilized state.

crrowley12 Jun 22, 2011 10:52 AM

Not sure though if the battery or the alternator is the issue. The battery may be dying because the alternator isn't charging it like it should. But sometimes it fires right up. Which leads me to believe that at times the alternator is doing its job and other times it isn't.

stfuad Jun 22, 2011 12:35 PM

Modern alternators don't charge the battery... have a draw test done.

jkennedy293 Jun 22, 2011 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by stfuad (Post 9410176)
Modern alternators don't charge the battery... have a draw test done.

Huh??? Then how does the battery get recharged??

Slee256 Jun 22, 2011 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by jkennedy293 (Post 9410181)
Huh??? Then how does the battery get recharged??

Gremlins running on a hamster wheel:banghead:

jkennedy293 Jun 23, 2011 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Slee256 (Post 9411115)
Gremlins running on a hamster wheel:banghead:

Thats what I thought. I assume Mitsubishi put a lifetime of food in there for him since I don't see anything in the service manual to refill it.

captobvious75 Jun 23, 2011 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by jkennedy293 (Post 9411712)
Thats what I thought. I assume Mitsubishi put a lifetime of food in there for him since I don't see anything in the service manual to refill it.

My gremlin got out once... hard to catch when they get out

El-Diablo Jun 23, 2011 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by stfuad (Post 9410176)
Modern alternators don't charge the battery... have a draw test done.

I am quite frankly speechless. this is almost as good as "changing your FMIC to an evo one will reduce your exhaust volume"

Here's a thought save about 20 lbs in weight, disconnect it bridge the wiring and see how far you get with your lights on.

crrowley12 Jun 23, 2011 09:10 AM

I am pretty sure it's the alternator but will they be able to diagnose this even if it doesn't do it while it's there? Like I said it isn't every time that it does this.


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