LancerGTS

This pic post didnt work...see below. Ralliart pad on top, eclipse on bottom.

troy@WORKS

Yup.

I sent some pictures to Steve of the front pads from the Ralliart and the front pads of a 2nd Gen Eclipse that should confirm it for everyone that they are the same. These pads have been tested on the track, we installed them in our Ralliart for the BFGoodrich KDW Challenge.

http://www.kdwchallenge.com/#/home

LancerGTS

If you cant see the pictures...

velocityhead

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"Get me out of here....this man is crazy" haha

RallyGoneEvo

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So any 2nd Gen Eclipse GSX pads will work on the front? Whats a good brake fluid?

sith_killer_99

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I thought the brakes for the Ralliart were direct OEM brakes from the Outlander, did I miss something

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=127586

http://www.pressportal.com.au/news/2...008-11-28.html

Shouldn't these be the exact same brakes, discs, pads, etc.

Ladogaboy

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I think most of the marketing materials went out with misinformation, and Edmunds isn't the type of reviewer who is going to rip the car apart just to verify that type of information. Works, however, would.

billyboy1

pot.kettle.black...

there has been testing done here in australia with aftermarket pads and rotors, but still the brakes are woefully underdone. to quote the tuner 'The car 100% needs bigger calipers and rotors, we have already (well) exceeded the EVO X power and to have a car with this grunt and the OEM (size) brakes is downright scary!'

but anyway...

Ladogaboy

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I would say that it is not so much the power as it is the weight of the vehicle. Stopping a 3,500 lb vehicle can't be easy.

ambystom01

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Bigger rotors and calipers won't help if they were doing a single stop, the main contributor to a single, hard stop is tires.

billyboy1

even when someone is using it as a street application, are you only expecting them to stop only once? the tires are a joke, i agree - was the first thing i changed but still need to up the brake department so will either go a evo x brembos or with an aftermarket setup eg ap etc. with my old subie and also my toyota chaser, they benefited greatly from a pad and rotor change, as they had decent calipers and rotor size, but with the ralliart, we were blessed (or damned) with the povo spec brakes

not cheap, yes, but at highway speeds (which i do very often for work) extra coin on braking is well worth it for both safety and peace of mind

ambystom01

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If someone is driving on the streets, they should only be doing one high speed braking application within a short time frame. In this situation, heat is not an issue.This is why race cars have gigantic brakes. Larger brakes are better capable of dissipating heat which allows them to be subjected to hard braking over and over again. You can put 15" rotors on a Ralliart but it won't make it stop any better (assuming you hold all other variables constant).
The reason why you noticed a difference was the pads.

havock28

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So if the 2nd Gen Eclipse Front Pads work.. then pads from these cars will also work with our front pads

91 - 96 Dodge Stealth (2WD)
93 - 98 Eagle Talon, Talon TSI, Turbo (AWD)
91 - 99 Mitsubishi 3000GT (Except AWD)
92 - 04 Mitsubishi Diamante
94 - 00 Mitsubishi Eclipse (94 - 99 4WD) (00 3.0L)
91 -93 & 99 - 00 Mitsubishi Galant (91 - 93 4WD Turbo) (99 - 00 6 Cyl)
92 - 00 Mitsubishi Montero
97 - 04 Mitsubishi Montero Sport
05 - 06 Mitsubishi Outlander
92 - 94 Plymouth Laser (4WD)

havock28

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i only found pads for the rears at the local auto stores

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