ambystom01

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A source for Tein and KW coilovers.

http://www.jscspeed.com/catalog/Tein...t-12880-1.html
http://www.jscspeed.com/catalog/Mits..._Ralliart.html

evo_soul

Tein makes probably one of the best Twin Tube coilovers out there the the 2000 and under price point. But the main focus of this kit is Street with some decent track capability. A bonus to this package would be the electronic dampening control.

ambystom01

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If they make the Flex, they may be able to make the Monoflex. The Monoflex is quite a bit better. It certainly doesn't hurt to call and ask.

evo_soul

I spoke to Tein in depth about the subject. They are not likely to offer a monotube option. They feel the current offering is enough with Street performance as their goal / focus. It sucks for a guy who has a ralliart and wishes to compete on a seriously level. Because a Tein Monoflex would be great.

There are not many track oriented options for the Ralliart. Manufacturers see the Ralliart more related to the Lancers than the EVO X unfortunately.

ambystom01

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AST is an option, if you have the money and the time to work with them for a custom kit. ASTs are one of the better track oriented manufacturers out there. A few people have reported switching to AST kits from Tein or other kits have shaved seconds off their lap times.

billyboy1

Nail.hit.head. Seems to be only street stuff offered and just enough for the mildly modded.

The AST sounds interesting though - $5k+ price bracket I assume?

What might have been if the RA was a greater success sales wise (always wonder how well it would have gone if a manual option was offered ie wrx) and the aftermarket support that would have invariably been followed.

ambystom01

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I'll find the info on AST for you. I've seen kits from them for under $2000. If I remember right, AST bought or was bought by Moton.

ambystom01

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http://www.ast-suspension.com/index.asp

I checked, they make kits using the 5100, 5200 and 5300 for various Evo models. I know that's not directly relevant but it may be worth checking if any older Evo struts work on the Ralliart. I'd send them a quick email and see what they can do. Maybe if you send them a stock front and stock rear strut, they can make a kit for you.

To give you an idea of pricing,

$1900 for a Clubsport kit

http://949racing.com/xida-club-sport...ver-miata.aspx

$2700 for a kit with aluminum top mounts and dual springs

http://949racing.com/xida-scoiloversmiata.aspx

$4300 for a double adjustable kit with aluminum top mounts, dual springs and remote reservoirs

http://949racing.com/xida-coilover-miata.aspx

billyboy1

Not bad, after your post I went onto their site and saw the options for the evos but not ralliart - should be interesting to see what they can come back with

Another side note, the RL are a mono tube design. What i might also do is to see if can get my existing coil overs modified with their competition spec ones - or reuse my brackets...

billyboy1

Although what I've found so far in emails/calls, if a company doesn't offer a product that will suit the ralliart, they arent keen on investigating it further

evo_soul

This brings us back to the problem I talked about in a few other posts/threads previously. If a manufacturer makes a coilover for the Ralliart, they are likely going to make it compatible for both the Ralliart / Lancer because it makes economical sense. The make two different kits just wouldnt net them any sales. This is why I am somewhat happy for the range of coilovers available for our cars. The fact that any are making coilovers specifically spec'd to the Ralliart is even better. But as you can see the odds are forever stacked against the Ralliart from becoming what it truly wants to be. A Seriously platform that can put down some decent power and fun. Its kinda tough being having the soul of an evo but being stuck in a Lancer body. lol

Everyone here will have an opinion. Go with the one that makes practical sense to you. And let us know what you ended up going with.

Nv82

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KW only makes the V2s which are not track suitable. So again you grasp for straws.


Uh.... Sure. I love how you say this while knowing nothing about anything you are talking about. I'll take Fortune Auto 510s over KW V2s who not even KW recommends the V2s for track use...

Please know what you are talking about.... I mean really.

sstevojr

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I'll gladly take 510's with custom built digressive valved coilovers over simplistic, generic KW V2 any day. Track driving is not about compliance, it's about driver input. Any company who provides a shock dyno for EVERY coilover they make is on the right track. Let alone continuous improvements in technology, by releasing newly improved versions every 6 months (Gen 4's just came out, praise allah!)

Talk about spreading false nonsense. At this point I'm grateful you don't have a Ralliart, some noob might read this and get the wrong impression you have a clue.

ambystom01

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What makes them not track suitable? Moreover, the title itself says "street and track". The OP is, based on this, looking for a dual purpose setup, not some hardcore track setup. The original post:

Plenty of people track off the shelf KWs that are not their hardcore track setups. For a dual purpose kit, I think KW is a good choice. If I recall correctly, the KW body is rust resistant/proof and they offer free lifetime rebuilds. But no, I don't know what I'm talking about, I've only been modifying and racing cars for 5+ years now . If you're in the realm of custom revalves, like the person below has suggested, you can do the same with KW, Tein or really any of the other major brands.

Oh the ironing .

RazorLab

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On my Evo 8, I was 2 secs slower with "off the shelf" KW V3's compared to the "Cheap" crackerjack $1,000 Apexi ExV's I had before. Only change being the coilovers.

My point is, not all "cheap" coilovers suck. This reminds me of peoples viewpoints on Rotas...