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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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crcain, I'll make you a deal. If you can get the PR crew to spill the beans on everything that I've already posted, I'll tell you the rest of what we're doing.
I think by being open with my posts and data, there's no question that those posts were of some benefit to the same people we compete with today. I love competition and love to see the lil guy win. But, with that said, I'm leaving the beans in the pot until they've finished cookin'. Who knows, the Red beans and rice may need to be changed to Black Beans and rice.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Sorry crcain, I forgot to answer your first question. Through logical reasoning, Yes, FP answered my boost leak question. With the boost leak, I continued to raise the boost on the turbo, which early on, overspooled it, which caused further damage to the already aggravated situation. The thrust bearing had 3 times the normal play, however the other bearings were in very good shape. Since I'm not experienced with rebuilding turbos, I couldn't tell you much more. If I did, it would be gossip, since I've already said as much as I know. The compressor wheel just BARELY showed signs of touching the housing also. It was very close to reaching it's half-life, if you know what I mean. I still believe that this smaller type turbo in a bolt on configuration is capable of more than we've seen.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Thanks 9sec9.. good luck and glad to see you are staying with the Green a bit longer.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Sorry for the long delay. Yeah, we decided to stay with the Green for at least a few more races, if not more. Speaking of the Green, Indy, if you're serious about selling your new Green setup, I might use it as a spare. I wouldn't really need the manifold, but I would still be open to buying it. Let me know.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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9sec9, Anything can be for sale my setup includes everything needed for install. Everything is new and has been assembled. Ported and coated manifold, o2, and hotside with a new Green. It has both new oil and water feed lines with all new hardware and gaskets with the exhaust manifold gasket too. It is as drop in as you can get perfect for a quick swap at the track.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 06:37 AM
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Indy, I don't really think that you should sell your stuff. Sleep on it a few days. There's a ton of people that would be willing to buy a Green setup if you wanted to sell it. I would just sit on it for a bit. Just my opinion.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Question for you 9sec9
I am about to order my fp green over here, do you think it is worthwhile changing the turbo elbow, if so which would recommend/run yourselves ?.
The reason i ask is that over here in the uk there seems to be different opinions on wether its worthwhile and could it be the cause of boost surges (example on this uk thread http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=173645 ).
I am very interested to hear your experiences and take on this issue.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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kitlo, I attempted to post in lancerregister, but it wouldn't let me??!, so.. We use the Buschur O2 housing and have had very good results. My own thoughts on it are that any restriction to exhaust flow should be reduced. If there is a restriction, it will cause backpressure which is not a good thing on a turbo'd car. With that same thought in mind, if you attempt to put more air through the engine, whether through porting an intake, larger airfilter, ported head, more boost, basically anything that increases airflow, then that air eventually ends up going through the turbo and the 'elbow'. The more you try to get through the elbo in a given period of time, the more likely you are to hit the wall of maximum airflow. Reducing that restriction becomes more and more necessary, the higher the airflow (read horsepower) increases. It is a continued return on your investment, the more you modify the engine for performance. It's a know fact that the FP Green flows 49lbs stock. I have seen calculations that we're flowing between 51 and 55 lbs of air, even though the wheel is designed to flow only 49! CAREFUL porting and loss of restrictions have helped increase our airflow numbers. I do not believe in porting the wastegate port however. The better the air is directed through the turbine, the more power and less need for 're-direction' of the air to the wastegate. This is based on the premise that maximizing boost and airflow is the objective. I can't say that my results are too scientific, but they do represent some dyno tested results.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Thanks for the input, it is really appreciated !!!!.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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You're welcome kitlo.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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9sec9, Just weighed the new struts and springs, 11 lbs for the front, 7 lbs for the rears each ... The new manifold shipped and should be at David's by Wed at the latest and tested later in the week... I will send you photos of the improved ice cream scoop soon. Indy

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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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My decoder ring offer is still available
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 03:49 AM
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Gotcha CO_VR4
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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Thanks Indy. I'm looking forward to getting them on the car. I hate having this down time while getting the ducks lined back up. We're tenatively scheduled to be in Wakeman at Buschur Racing in about 2 weeks or less. Still waiting on some other new parts before I can go. I hope DB doesn't twist my arm too much about the AEM because I'd really like to get more out of the stock ECU, but I've also got to get the most out of the engine. Decisions, decisions.
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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9sec9, is there a reason why a ton of your posts in this thread have "removed" in them with no content?

I was looking for the photo of your ported turbine housing...
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