TTP-Engineering Tuned STOCK Evo X - +107whp + 106wtq MD - WITHOUT ECU REFLASH!
That's exactly how that question should have been answered. Thank you for stating so clearly what many people are probably going to wonder once results start getting posted. I hope everyone's expectations weren't too high going in to this purchase, because honestly a 75whp increase for ~$500 is fantastic right now.
even if its 50WHP the Price
erformance ratio is ideal and the fact that its undetectable, hell even if it was 30whp I'd still be interested in something thats undetectable for warranty issues. 
The Evo X tuners have uncovered a nasty secret on the X... After market parts are NOT what they used to be on older cars, I would be very hesitant with my purchases (aside from a tune, which is a goldmine of power right now).
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I'm a huge fan of the Price : performance ratio
even if its 50WHP the Priceerformance ratio is ideal and the fact that its undetectable, hell even if it was 30whp I'd still be interested in something thats undetectable for warranty issues.
The Evo X tuners have uncovered a nasty secret on the X... After market parts are NOT what they used to be on older cars, I would be very hesitant with my purchases (aside from a tune, which is a goldmine of power right now).
even if its 50WHP the Price
erformance ratio is ideal and the fact that its undetectable, hell even if it was 30whp I'd still be interested in something thats undetectable for warranty issues. The Evo X tuners have uncovered a nasty secret on the X... After market parts are NOT what they used to be on older cars, I would be very hesitant with my purchases (aside from a tune, which is a goldmine of power right now).
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I have an X, does that qualify me to ask questions without getting this type of response? I've been following this thread since I bought my X in August, and patiently waiting with great anticipation for the Z-chip to come out. I remember the days when it was initially 50+ hp and tq, and followed along all the way to over 100 of each. Now after MONTHS OF SILENCE with little or no product information release, and with good reason, the flood of questions will be endless until a lot more people get their hands on the product and post independent results.
I don't, however, believe it's out of line for anyone to question why they will or will not gain +107whp and +106wtq on a tuned stock evo x using the z-chip WHEN THAT'S THE TITLE OF THE THREAD. I don't think anyone's expecting 800hp out of PNP, but we were led to believe we could reach the numbers you have posted (taking into account losses for altitude, octane availability, etc).
Personally, I'm excited about even modest gains if I decide to get the z-chip installed. I'm not expecting 100/100 hp/tq, but relatively close should not be out of the question IMO. I can tell you though, and I've seen this a few times, my security in dealing with TTP grows weary whenever a member of your team responds to people without using professional courtesy. You may feel you are telling them off, but you're really showing everyone else how they should expect to be treated. It seems like there have been many happy people who have dealt with you, and that goes a long ways. But it quickly disappears when comments like the one I quoted are made. Just my $.02.
I don't, however, believe it's out of line for anyone to question why they will or will not gain +107whp and +106wtq on a tuned stock evo x using the z-chip WHEN THAT'S THE TITLE OF THE THREAD. I don't think anyone's expecting 800hp out of PNP, but we were led to believe we could reach the numbers you have posted (taking into account losses for altitude, octane availability, etc).
Personally, I'm excited about even modest gains if I decide to get the z-chip installed. I'm not expecting 100/100 hp/tq, but relatively close should not be out of the question IMO. I can tell you though, and I've seen this a few times, my security in dealing with TTP grows weary whenever a member of your team responds to people without using professional courtesy. You may feel you are telling them off, but you're really showing everyone else how they should expect to be treated. It seems like there have been many happy people who have dealt with you, and that goes a long ways. But it quickly disappears when comments like the one I quoted are made. Just my $.02.
MBC sure, Cams, definatly (I think cams shouldnt be considered "bolt on")
how ever, IC, intake, exhaust (aside from a cat delete) are all very questionable in my mind. I highly doubt the majority of the evoX's stock parts are in anyway a restriction to the stock turbo from what I've seen.
again, I'm not an owner and this is just speculation, but not groundless speculation I think.
how ever, IC, intake, exhaust (aside from a cat delete) are all very questionable in my mind. I highly doubt the majority of the evoX's stock parts are in anyway a restriction to the stock turbo from what I've seen.
again, I'm not an owner and this is just speculation, but not groundless speculation I think.
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It appears the only ones asking those types of questions are the ones that don't even own an Evo X? 
AEM standalone ECU's you don't plug into your car and expect 800whp just because you have a 42R strapped on it.
The ZChip allows for end users and tuners to continue to make adjustments to their own mapping as they continue to modify their Evo X.
Basemapping is being sent out for all users based on their data they provided at the time of order about their Evo X.
AEM standalone ECU's you don't plug into your car and expect 800whp just because you have a 42R strapped on it.
The ZChip allows for end users and tuners to continue to make adjustments to their own mapping as they continue to modify their Evo X.
Basemapping is being sent out for all users based on their data they provided at the time of order about their Evo X.
That's exactly how that question should have been answered. Thank you for stating so clearly what many people are probably going to wonder once results start getting posted. I hope everyone's expectations weren't too high going in to this purchase, because honestly a 75whp increase for ~$500 is fantastic right now.
Scott and the Zeitronix team has worked day and night to bring the EvoX members of this site and abroad another option with end user interface. We have put countless electronic, datalogging equipment, monitoring, dynotime and testing on our own stock 2008 Evo X GSR and the gains represented are based on ACTUAL GAINS on our own car as tested.
Never have we stated that all Evo X's would instantly receive 107whp.
Outside of various octane and altitude differences, we are dealing with various dealer reflash updated vehicles, modified vehicles and so on.
Here are some financial details regarding the cost effectiveness of the ZChip:
43.9whp = $10.00 / whp
48.7whp = $9.00 / whp
54.8whp = $8.00 / whp
62.7whp = $7.00 / whp
73.1whp = $6.00 / whp
87.8whp = $5.00 / whp
107whp = $4.10 / whp
Only here clarifying that our engine has all the stock internals. Only the ignition has been upgraded on the engine with SparkTech's system.
Seriously guys, it would help out everyone, including the business, if you were to create a new thread or link on your website with all of the details, specs, installation instructions, costs, Q and A, etc... Just a suggestion.
Everything is in this thread, if you want it consolidated, do it!
Hell I'm suprized they have time to respond to threads like this as much as they do, and if they have read every single post, then I'd be EXTREMELY supprized.
thats the Job of a PR guy, and what small business can afford that?
I say good F*cking job TTP! dont change a thing!
Scott is working on a number of end user support areas and installation information at this time.
The first batch is sold out at this time (might have a backorder or two actually from the website sales) so we will be spending our time programming and processing the existing orders, contacting the members and shipping the units out for the rest of the week.
The first batch is sold out at this time (might have a backorder or two actually from the website sales) so we will be spending our time programming and processing the existing orders, contacting the members and shipping the units out for the rest of the week.
I'd rather have the TTP guys working on cars than data mining this thread and consolidating it for you.
Everything is in this thread, if you want it consolidated, do it!
Hell I'm suprized they have time to respond to threads like this as much as they do, and if they have read every single post, then I'd be EXTREMELY supprized.
thats the Job of a PR guy, and what small business can afford that?
I say good F*cking job TTP! dont change a thing!
Everything is in this thread, if you want it consolidated, do it!
Hell I'm suprized they have time to respond to threads like this as much as they do, and if they have read every single post, then I'd be EXTREMELY supprized.
thats the Job of a PR guy, and what small business can afford that?
I say good F*cking job TTP! dont change a thing!