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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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God I'm slow

Went to the strip here in Dayton Ohio.....kilkare speedway and ran'er for the first time. Let me just say first...that it is much better than racing on the street, I don't know why but it is something about lining up at the lights, looking over and seeing another car and the stands with a good amount of people that just did it for me. I wish it wouldnt have been in like 100 degree weather but hey, what are you gonna do.
So I get up to the line and next thing I know its that vision from biker boys. With the music from the florda evo video. The freaky tunnel vision, with my dad talking to me and Paul Walker, Vin Disel, the whole gang was there. . Suddenly both lights come on as Im even and I start the count down with the rev sayin, I'm gonna win. . Red,Yellow,Yellow,GOOOOOO!
I had the clutch half out and reving around 4k-4.5k, I didn't slip her too much but I wasnt nice to her either.......had to let her know who daddy was. I actually got a good grab out of her and off we was, pow, 2nd, pow 3rd, pow 4th......woo-hooo
clicked off a 14.9 @ 90mph . I have the slip at home, I'm going to get it at lunch time, i know my reaction was a 1.1, I forget the other stuff . My buddy pulled down a 14.8 @ 92 . I went against another evo, he pulled down a 12.9 or 12.8. I actually got the jump on him but he's faster than me. I know he has cams, exhaust, and all that good stuff . I have exhaust done and thats it ..........The launch wasn't too bad, I was nervous for it being my first time
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Welcome to our world! It's an amazing rush once you get out there and do it for real at the track. It's also very nerve-wracking as you have to worry about staging, hitting the lights properly, launching well, and making perfect shifts in every gear. I still get butterflies everytime I go, even though I've probably done 400-500 drag passes in 4 different cars combined.

Show us the timeslip, and maybe I can help you out. When you said your buddy ran a 14.8 at 92, I got the feeling that the weather conditions were just too bad and that maybe the track runs slow on average, but when you said another Evo got 12s, that made me wonder. If you can remember that Evo's mph, that would be very helpful (one with cams). Let us know the octane you're running and if you have anymore than the exhaust mods listed in your sig.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Dont feel bad my first run in a evo was a 14.5 @ 96mph. I was shocked when I saw the time slip thinking I got the slowest evo ever made . There was another guy there that day runing his evo for the first time and got a 14.8 on the first run. About 8 runs later we both were seeing low 13's. It just took a little getting use too.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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What RPM where you shifting at?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:47 AM
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Yeah, I'm turned on to a new aspect of this life, I love the track now. Even only with one pass it was great b/c I didn't have to worry about other cars, just me the other car and all 1320ft of adrenaline rush. I was shifting at 7k or 76k i cant remember today but I know it was in that area. It was damn hot and a good amount of humidity but people were in the 11's. Nothing other than the exhaust mods and someone before me supposedly got a flash. For some reason it wont post right. I'm in the column with the 14.9 for those who havent read the whole post.

BR Stage 2+++ Evo Me
1.1951-------------------------Reaction--------------------------1.1430
2.0170------------------------- 60ft --------------------------2.1870
5.5318-------------------------330ft --------------------------6.2360
7.8547------------------------ET @594ft-------------------------8.9760
8.3879------------------------ 1/8 ET ----------------------- ---9.5849
84.40------------------------- 1/8 mph ------------------------73.91
12.9029---------------------- 1/4 ET ------------------------ 14.9578
110.55 ---------------------- 1/4 MPH -------------------------90.78

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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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pump gas also....i forgot
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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Hey man, I'll be hitting up the drap strip as soon as I have a new clutch awaiting when I blow up my stocker. This will be my first time too. The awesome thing is that your ET's will only get better from here! I'm hoping to dip into the mid-to-low 12's eventually.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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Practice makes perfect. you just got to keep at it and try not to get discourage. My very first attempt at drag racing was quite disappointing. I had just dropped about a good $3,000 worth of mods int5o my 3000GT VR4 and I couldn't run faster than a 14.2, I was so f*ckin' pissed. But I didn't give up and eventually with no other mods I shaved a whole second off.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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I also my first time out ran a 15.1 the first time ever running the Evo but nor racing in general. 3 runs later and I was down to a 14.5, if the track would not have been so damn busy I know I could have bettered those times yet still. Practice makes perfect like everyone has been saying.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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i mean i was shifting fast as hell and everyone tells me that im not slow when shifting, are there any other tricks of the trade?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Your launch was not good. You should be hitting 1.8 at least 60 foot times. Rev it higher or slip it faster or both. That would account for .6 seconds right there. Bring ya down to a 14.2... probably more like a 14.0 Then shift it quicker It may seem fast enough but it probably isnt. Your trapping pretty low but its hard to say when the whole run it not very good. Just run it about 6 times and you will see mid 13 second passes Im sure. Also, rev it much higher than 5k... that is WAY too low. Your dropping out of the power range in the next gear. Im sure its bogging in each and every gear. Rev it 7k and youll pick up alot of mph. Also, dont lift off the gas between shifts if you dont mind eating your clutch up... that will help some too. Practice and practice and youll get better.

I am not great driving either... I hit an 11.55 @ 123.5 I should be able to hit a low 11 with that kind of mph. I am going to blame my slipping clutch for the bad run for now I will keep on finding excuses about my bad driving until I finally make a perfect pass
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TrinaBabe
Your launch was not good. You should be hitting 1.8 at least 60 foot times. Rev it higher or slip it faster or both. That would account for .6 seconds right there. Bring ya down to a 14.2... probably more like a 14.0 Then shift it quicker It may seem fast enough but it probably isnt. Your trapping pretty low but its hard to say when the whole run it not very good. Just run it about 6 times and you will see mid 13 second passes Im sure. Also, rev it much higher than 5k... that is WAY too low. Your dropping out of the power range in the next gear. Im sure its bogging in each and every gear. Rev it 7k and youll pick up alot of mph. Also, dont lift off the gas between shifts if you dont mind eating your clutch up... that will help some too. Practice and practice and youll get better.

I am not great driving either... I hit an 11.55 @ 123.5 I should be able to hit a low 11 with that kind of mph. I am going to blame my slipping clutch for the bad run for now I will keep on finding excuses about my bad driving until I finally make a perfect pass
A few things here:

Yes, his launch is not good, which affects both ET and MPH to some degree, but I believe he has much bigger problems involved here. Also, he said he shifted at 7k or 7.6k, but couldn't quite remember. Some random jacktard responded by just saying "5k" for no apparent reason, but that wasn't what the thread originator said.

Ok,I say there are bigger problems, because he's only trapping 90mph. Since I trap nearly 90mph in the _1/8th-mile_, it is safe to say that his car is majorly deficient in power. If you look at the other guy's timeslip, you can see that he's making plenty of power (110mph) for his mods, but that he just can't drive (2.0 60' and 8.4@84 1/8th), so this tells me that the track and weather conditions were not adverse. In fact, since that guy picked up 26mph in the back half, I'd say the conditions were pretty good.

Evo98, you said "nothing other than the exhaust mods and someone before me supposedly got a flash." So, you have a used Evo with unknown previous and/or current mods, right? I think you should have the car looked at to find out what's wrong. If this was previously owned and modded, you likely have an issue with boost (vaccuum hoses, bov install, etc) from faulty re-installation. Or, if you have a flash, it may be configured for a completely different set of mods beyond just an exhaust. You need to either find an Evo shop to take a look at everything, or find a DSM/Evo self-tuning guy in your general area who could help diagnose. If you were down here, I'm sure we could get together and find the problem (if there really is one), but I don't know if you know anyone in your area. Hell, maybe ask that guy who ran 12s. He doesn't apparently know how to drive well, but he may be mechanically inclined enough to help.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Yes i was shifting in the 7k+ area. I'm going back to the track this thursday hopefully to get some passess in. I'm a little worried about the clutch. I know he had a boost controller, and a AFC, and intake that arent on the car. Is there no way to undo the flash other than having it flashed again? I will look for a shop. I'm wondering with the other mods he had if she.....a hell, who knows at this point. I will get the ball rolling, this just confirms tha it's not a dumb feeling, something def isnt all that right. I will launch it higher, i was just a little nervous, ive had better launches than that before just not at the track.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by evo98
Yes i was shifting in the 7k+ area. I'm going back to the track this thursday hopefully to get some passess in. I'm a little worried about the clutch. I know he had a boost controller, and a AFC, and intake that arent on the car. Is there no way to undo the flash other than having it flashed again? I will look for a shop. I'm wondering with the other mods he had if she.....a hell, who knows at this point. I will get the ball rolling, this just confirms tha it's not a dumb feeling, something def isnt all that right. I will launch it higher, i was just a little nervous, ive had better launches than that before just not at the track.
Wait, so did it have a flash, an S-AFC, or both? I think Mitsu can reflash back to stock, but I don't know if you want them to get involved or if they charge for it. If only you could get the PO300 code and go back in for the fix-it flash, then it would be cool. If you do actually have a flash in there that was designed for the previous owner's mods, then you should probably contact TurboTrix or Dynoflash to discuss it. They may be able to give you ideas on how to make sure it's flashed. I would think that one test would be to see if your rev limit is 7800 or 7600, but that's not exactly the most appealing test to attempt, and there are no tick marks between 7-8k rpm, so it's hard to actually tell where the rev limit is.

I'm not so sure going back to the track in this condition is advisable. If you are having severe power loss, it could just be a big boost leak somewhere or a faulty re-installation, but it could also be a separate issue that is causing a ton of knock and pulled timing, which would then cause your mph to be very low. If you are running lean and/or detonating, you could be endangering the engine. I don't want to get you all paranoid and such, but I do think your situation is cause for concern.
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