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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 01:22 AM
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Het warrtalon is this good?

Just curious..
went to strip 28 degrees F, all season tires, basic mods.
13.000@ 107.785@2100 feet

60 Foot was 1.756

yea or naaaa....

you the man I want your thoughts
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 03:34 AM
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why the hell didn't you just pm him?

your adjusted et is 12.58 according to the calculator on this site

that's not bad considering the mods in your sig.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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Newimportowner, I would say that you're making decent power, but the driving is lacking for now. If you got a 1.75 60', then that's really good, but a 13.0 at 107.8 doesn't add up. Did you miss a shift, or do you just shift very slowly? Typically, a 1.75 60' and 107.8 mph would be a 12.5-12.6. I don't have the timeslip in front of me, but I did 12.52@108.4 on a 1.78 60', so I think you have a shifting issue, but that can be fixed if you figure out what it is. At what rpm were you shifting?

As far as the altitude goes, don't pay any attention to those conversion charts. 2100 feet doesn't make a .4s difference on turbo cars. Plus, your ET could already have been 12.5-12.6 with your current mph at your current elevation. At sea level, your mph would have been a little higher, and therefore your ET could have been better than even 12.5-12.6 with good driving.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
As far as the altitude goes, don't pay any attention to those conversion charts.

good advice
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 144mph
good advice
Sorry, but they aren't accurate for turbo'd cars. We don't lose as much at altitude as other cars. You can't really think that putting in just an ET and an altitude will allow that calculator to give you an actual ET at sea level. I'm about to move from 500' elevation to 6000'. Following your calculator, I will only run 13.2 up there. Sorry, but that's not going to happen. Evo owners up there only report .4-.6s differences in ET, which is half of what the calculator says.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Newimportowner, I would say that you're making decent power, but the driving is lacking for now. If you got a 1.75 60', then that's really good, but a 13.0 at 107.8 doesn't add up. Did you miss a shift, or do you just shift very slowly? Typically, a 1.75 60' and 107.8 mph would be a 12.5-12.6. I don't have the timeslip in front of me, but I did 12.52@108.4 on a 1.78 60', so I think you have a shifting issue, but that can be fixed if you figure out what it is. At what rpm were you shifting?

As far as the altitude goes, don't pay any attention to those conversion charts. 2100 feet doesn't make a .4s difference on turbo cars. Plus, your ET could already have been 12.5-12.6 with your current mph at your current elevation. At sea level, your mph would have been a little higher, and therefore your ET could have been better than even 12.5-12.6 with good driving.

slow full lift granny shifting I am sure. i left my slips back at the office, but when i get a chance to look at them i will post all the numbers. All Runs were fairly similar. 13.2-13.0ish. I do tend to shift rather early around 6900-7000, thats when my type one starts yelling at me to shift. I suppose I couls turn that up a bit. Can I ask what RPM you shift at? didnt mis a shift but i really dont know how much i want to flat shift though. I do have the Authority short throw in with bushings and everything. I was really just kind of curious what your thoughts were. I thought my MPH was pretty good from what i heard you say, but ET looked a bit off. I gues I have to not baby her so much.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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slow full lift granny shifting I am sure. i left my slips back at the office, but when i get a chance to look at them i will post all the numbers. All Runs were fairly similar. 13.2-13.0ish. I do tend to shift rather early around 6900-7000, thats when my type one starts yelling at me to shift. I suppose I couls turn that up a bit. Can I ask what RPM you shift at? didnt mis a shift but i really dont know how much i want to flat shift though. I do have the Authority short throw in with bushings and everything. I was really just kind of curious what your thoughts were. I thought my MPH was pretty good from what i heard you say, but ET looked a bit off. I gues I have to not baby her so much.
A few things:

1) What's a Type 1? Are you talking about a turbo timer? Turn that thing off or raise the shift indicator so high that it never distracts you. 6900-7000 isn't really low. I shift around 7100-7200, but 7000 is fine.

2) A full lift shift doesn't mean it's a granny shift. I full-lifted every shift for a while on my Evo, then started doing the 3-4, but the 1-2/2-3 are normal. Recently, I started trying a half-lift on the 2-3, but you don't have to NLTS to get good times. If you were really granny shifting, then shift faster.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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What is NLTS?
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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What is NLTS?
No lift to shift

Girlie
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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I agree with Warr and I think that you need to work on your shifting. Your 60ft and mph are pretty good but at that speed I was able to run a 12.3 at 2200ft elev. I shifted at 7000-7100 and full lifted every shift. Just keep practicing.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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Cool i appreciated all the advice.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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Okay Warr, here they are.

RT .248
60' 1.756
330' 5.460
1/8 8.368
1000 10.890
1/4 13.000
MPH 107.78

your analysis please,
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Newimportowner, I would say that you're making decent power, but the driving is lacking for now. If you got a 1.75 60', then that's really good, but a 13.0 at 107.8 doesn't add up. Did you miss a shift, or do you just shift very slowly? Typically, a 1.75 60' and 107.8 mph would be a 12.5-12.6. ...
I would say he just had one hell of a good launch, but your right, 12.8X at least.

Also, altitude may hurt more significantly during long pulls in 2nd gear and up (hense, 13.00) then during launch where traction and foot control are most important.

Also 8.3 (1/8) is very consistant for 13.0 (1/4), what do think W-talon?

Last edited by C6C6CH3vo; Jan 30, 2006 at 08:38 AM.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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what track did you go to?? I'm looking for an open track in the midwest. Oh and back in the days I hit a 12.3 @ 108, I was lifting on each shift.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Sorry, but they aren't accurate for turbo'd cars. We don't lose as much at altitude as other cars. You can't really think that putting in just an ET and an altitude will allow that calculator to give you an actual ET at sea level. I'm about to move from 500' elevation to 6000'. Following your calculator, I will only run 13.2 up there. Sorry, but that's not going to happen. Evo owners up there only report .4-.6s differences in ET, which is half of what the calculator says.
Yes Warrtalon is correct. Depending on the car, modifications wise, I would say .4-.6 is right on the money. But than again we will have the man himself here shortly to confirm this.
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