how to (11's)
 

I know this is sort of a broad question but what will it take to get into the 11's. I have an MR (US) and I would still like to drive the car everyday. Whats the common setup?

Very simple proven way to the 11's. Our Stage 3 package plus a fuel pump upgrade will get the car there and many have done it on pump gas.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

Is there anyother way??

Yes there is...!!

I went a different route but just out of curiosity...how much IS that Stage 3?

PM me and I will give you a list of parts. I can get you there for less than 2K dollars. Don't buy an expensive package of parts. Yikes!

Don't forget there's lazy people out there EVOTEXAS, hehe.

Heh, I can vouch for that bit of advice.. :lol:

Stage 3 package is $3360 for all of it. The kit does more than just adds the minimal stuff you need to push an EVO into the 11's. Also looses some weight from the car and makes it look a ton better under the hood. It also does it safely.

Hell I can probably put an EVO in the 11's for under a $1,000 if the stock clutch would hold up. It would look like half the hacked up messes I see customers dragging in here to get done right after they realize their new car now sucks.

The parts included in our Stage 3 are:
BR air filter -4.1 #'s
BR full 3" turboback exhaust, mandrel bent SS. -37 #'s
BR lightweight batterkit. -20#'s
BR reflash of ECU
Boost gauge and mount
BR upper i/c pipe and BOV, mandrel bent polished SS
BR MAS pipe, mandrel bent polished SS
BR Deluxe or standard FMIC kit
HKS camshafts
Fuel pump upgrade
BR manual boost controller

As you can see there are a lot of parts in the Stage 3. Under hood looks great after you get all the factory junk out of it. The car also looses 61 pounds of weight. Drop the spare tire and jack out while you are racing and you will be way under 100 pounds lighter, 108 to be exact.

There are cheaper ways to throw something together but is that what you really want to do for a $30,000 car? If so let me know, I can do that for you too.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

Throwing things together is one way, figuring it out yourself is another. I've seen some interesting quality parts with a Buschur label on them so keep your snide remarks about the DIYer to yourself.

Wasn't directing snide remarks towards you, if I was I would have said something like, "Just because I didn't say it was a package put together by Mark French makes it not a good idea?"

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

if you were interested in losing weight i wonder why you'd do your charge pipes in stainless steel.

All Mark put together on my car was the ECU map. ;)

I've raced NHRA and IHRA for 10 years and karts before that. I know a bit about making air and fuel go through a motor. ;) {thumbup} It's just these new fangled electronic contraptions got me all confuseded. I have no laptop tuning experience, that's all. David, I'll go head to head with you making a car go fast anyday. No rules to induction, etc. Forget this FI 2.0 stuff. :) I just like the AWD. ;)

EFIxMR,

Glad you asked that question. Our intercooler plumbing kit is the same weight as the stock parts. The SS tubing we use we use for a few reasons, #1 it is very light weight stainless, #2 polished SS holds its shine for years, aluminum will dull very quickly and #3 the polished SS also reflects engine heat keeping the charge temps in the tubing lower.

EVOTexas,

You must think the only cars I own or work on are 4g63's. Unlike most of the other "tuners" in this industry I own MANY different cars. I have 2 turbo Regals, three different naturally aspirated performance V8's old school carburated, LS1 etc. You name the car and let's have a competition. There is going to be big money involved, so how much of bet would you like to put on whatever this build is you think you can beat me at?

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

No I don't think that the only thing you work on are 4G63's but you should realize that same fact that not everyone here is a newbie trying to learn how a turbo spins. So you turn the wrenches and I'll turn the wheel. {thumbup}