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TrinaBabe Jul 16, 2005 12:33 AM

New track times finally 11's
 
Well as I figured, after fixing my shifting problem my new times are right where I figured they would be... still a little slow but thats from my launches.

My best of the night was an 11.5 @123.. 1.76 60' time. I figure if I can get a .1 better 60 foot time I would be at around a high 11.3. I guess i am pretty close to where I should be so I will crank the boost next time I go out. This is still at 25.5psi so I am excited to see what I can do at 30. Next time out I will be shooting for a 10.99 but figure Ill more likely hit an 11.1 or so. I guess I still dont really know much about the whole thing yet (Only been to the track 5 times total I think) but I seem to finally be doing alright. The car is running much better, shifts well and everything is finally starting to fall in place. I cant wait till I get the new wastegate spring so I can run it at 30 pounds!

And just so we have it, 2 of the runs were an 11.6 @121 and 122. And my first run was a 12.5 @ 121 (Bogged the car out horribly :) )

Hopefully I can hit the 10's shortly. I still need to get much better at the launch but I am cutting 1.7s consistantly now so I dont think it will take me too much to drop it to 1.6's.... after that drag radials might help but I dont know.

3000ways Jul 16, 2005 12:38 AM

Congrats and welcome to the 11 second club. It's amazing to see how you went from 12.8 to 11.5 in such a short time, great job.

KFive Jul 16, 2005 12:39 AM

Great Job! Those are Awesome times!

TrinaBabe Jul 16, 2005 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by 3000ways
Congrats and welcome to the 11 second club. It's amazing to see how you went from 12.8 to 11.5 in such a short time, great job.

Well as I figured the car was what was holding me back mainly. First not getting out of gear, then losing power and speed between shifts. Now the car isnt holding me back its my launch. I can live with that time and not be pissed about it for once. :)

I will not leave that boost anymore though... its just a waste of power in my eyes. Ill run it at 30psi hopefully next week.. Otherwise the week after that for sure and, like I said, Ill be shooting for the tens :)

Thanks everyone for the props! Ill keep posting my new times. Sooner or later I will get a time that i will be happy to put in the list of Evo's. Even now.. when the car isnt that quick it is so fun to beat up on American muscle that is trailered in and out of the track. I also find it cool how my trap speeds are actually just as high or higher than alot of race prepped cars in the 10s. Anyways... Ill let ya know next time I run it :) I seem to be getting much better at a pretty good speed so I think 10s wont be a problem.

Apparently my tuning skills are decent also, car doesnt knock, runs smooth and pulls hard and traps at a pretty good speed for only 25.5psi. I guess I will start to see how the other components in the car handle more power still. I am thinking the stock ignition may crap out very shortly (I still have the stock wimpy wires and all:) ). The Walbro may not be able to handle much more power either.... I guess I will find out soon enough!

sylvester31 Jul 16, 2005 01:03 AM

that is great man, congrats.

SterlingEvo Jul 16, 2005 08:20 AM

Awesome. You're right, you definitely can knock those 60' times down. I was cutting 1.75 with just an exhaust and tune on conti all-seasons. For having been to the track only 5 times, it's pretty damn awesome that you're running mid 11s :D

I use the 1350 rule. multiply your ET*MPH and the closer it is to 1350, then the better you're driving. 1350=amazing, 1370=really good, 1400=will be better with practice :D

In other words, with "perfect" driving, a 123mph trap could be good for a 10.9 ;)

3000ways Jul 16, 2005 09:36 AM

I like that rule, it's pretty interesting. In the most part it's correct, just some kinks though. An example is a guy who ran a 10.9@123MPH, according to your equation he is a perfect driver, in reality his car makes well over 550WHP and he hits the rev limiter down the track, so his trap should be a lot higher. Still good rule.

Iceman2011 Jul 16, 2005 11:13 AM

what are your mods

EvoTech Jul 16, 2005 01:54 PM

Great Job. Nice to see a UTEC user doing there own tuning and making it work! You are proof that dynos are overrated. You deserve a lot of credit for your hard work and dedication to learning everything that you can about tuning. I am way impressed. Hope to meet you at E town soon.

Ed

Warrtalon Jul 16, 2005 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by 3000ways
I like that rule, it's pretty interesting. In the most part it's correct, just some kinks though. An example is a guy who ran a 10.9@123MPH, according to your equation he is a perfect driver, in reality his car makes well over 550WHP and he hits the rev limiter down the track, so his trap should be a lot higher. Still good rule.

Actually, this is about perfect, and I've seen it in person on a 1G dsm at Rockingham Raceway in NC. Al Blaha hit a 10.9@123 with a 1.5x 60' back in 97-98. That same day I was doing 12.1@113.5, and Tom Hoppe (trhoppe the SCCA STX nat'l champ) was doing 12.3s, if I recall, on the stock 1g sidemount!!

I don't think Al had 550whp...probably closer to 400...

Btw, my score is 1335, but don't tell anyone it's just because I was letting off in 4th after hitting the rev limiter. {devil}

TrinaBabe Jul 16, 2005 07:50 PM

Im interested in that calculation... I will have to do some research but it doesnt seem too accurate to me. Take a 2600lb DSM that can trap at 123 and 3400lb full weight Evo trapping the same. I think the DSM would own it but like I said.. i dont know much about racing yet... still learning at a very high learning curve :)

I also know that if I could cut the 60' time down to a 1.58 I would probably have hit an 11.3 or so. I really need to learn how people cut these bad @ss sixty foot times. I am launching it reasonably hard.. seems on the verge of bogging and pulling. I looked at my boost logs and it instantly climbs boost from when i launch it so I am not bogging it for sure... maybe I am still slipping the clutch too much? Its either that or I am launching at too low an RPM so i need to slip the clutch more than I should? Ill do some practice maybe next week but for sure the week after that is when I will run it again with higher boost. Im really hoping to hit a 10.

My mods are listed all over this forum but mainly it has full bolt ons and a GT35r (Small E-Cover). Every bolt on includes things like intake manifolds btw.

DragNRacing Jul 16, 2005 11:39 PM

Way to go Tim/Trina! {thumbup}

To get your 60's down get stiffer shocks in the rear to prevent the weight transfer. On my GSX the rear strut bar cut about half a tenth but no sure what it would do on the EVO. On Buschur's car I think I remember it cutting off a tenth on their 1G. Next step, I would get some R compound tires with lighter rims like the Gram Lights or some drag radials.

Props to you those are good times :) I am thinking UTEC more and more. How do you like it thus far other than the launch/no lift to shift problem? Does it show knock?

TrinaBabe Jul 17, 2005 06:08 AM

The Utec is great. It does show its version of knock (Much different than the DSM Link or stock DSM Ecus show but its there). It also will show you the stock timing advance so you can see how accurate its knock idea is compared to your stock ECU. Mine, from the factory, was pretty much nuts on. Once it hits 2-3 degrees of knock the ECU will try to pull a little bit of timing.

The UTEC also drives the injectors and coils so it is an exact science when it comes to timing and fuel. If you tell it do something it does it :) It also seems that it will have many more options updated down the road. The launch/no lift problem I have half @ssed solved for now by wiring a switch to my clutch switch. Once I launch it I pretty much turn off the clutch switch. The only other big downfall to the Utec is trying to make it anti-lag. You can sorta get it to work and build around 20 psi before it jumps into a load map that you will need while driving down the track but I dont even use ALS to launch right now and it seems to work out fine.

bertune Jul 17, 2005 06:18 AM

congrats! Knocking at 10sec door.

DSMotorsport Jul 17, 2005 09:25 AM

Congrats! now you use the clutch switch to run a secondary rev limit for launch control, but no secondary limit for shifting? Are you still shifting WOT and just letting the rpm hit the normal rev limit?

Im having major spool issues wiht my 1g talon, went 10.99 @ 130 on friday night with a GT3582R T3/.82. It takes me over 2 full seconds to spool in second gear with a wot shift at 8400rpm using the fuel/ignition cut secondary rev limit in the EMS. Granted, I have tall tires on the car that make the gearing too tall, that's not helping.

anyway...does your secondary rev limiter shut off the fuel or the ignition? or does is retard the timing relative to holding a set rpm. (more rpm over the lmit = more timing retard)


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