Heal toe shifting.....anyone do it?
I never used to throttle blip in a downshift before I got this car, now I've been reading about blipping the throttle while you're on the brakes in a downshift (heal toe shifting).
Anyone do this? If so how hard was it to learn? I'm thinking that I'll probably mash the brakes and look stupid the first couple of times, but it honestly doesn't seem that hard. |
Originally Posted by 4TUN8
I never used to throttle blip in a downshift before I got this car, now I've been reading about blipping the throttle while you're on the brakes in a downshift (heal toe shifting).
Anyone do this? If so how hard was it to learn? I'm thinking that I'll probably mash the brakes and look stupid the first couple of times, but it honestly doesn't seem that hard. Rev-matching is good for saving your clutch... |
I do it all the time through turns or sometimes when I just feel like driving hard :)
I picked it up rather quickly, just practice and you'll get it down pretty good. |
IMO it's not hard at all. I saw my firned who raced INDY do it while driving my STi, and then I just tried it. It took about a week of constant practice to learn to do it well.
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Good reason to do it on the street= Its one of those racing techniques that you can practice on the street. (Along with looking ahead, and hand position)
Just start with finding where to put your foot for the brake and gas, and start giving the throttle blip, dont even have to put it in gear as you do it, you can add that later as you feel comfortable, or just stay on the clutch as you do it coming up to lights and get the timing down without the extra clutch use. What it does for equipment is save the synchros and makes shifts smoother, and by keeping the revs up when you let out on the clutch it will keep the wheels from locking up from the shock of fast car/slow engine. (can cause a spin quick in rwd) Jon K www.seat-time.com |
Originally Posted by racerjon1
What it does for equipment is save the synchros and makes shifts smoother, and by keeping the revs up when you let out on the clutch it will keep the wheels from locking up from the shock of fast car/slow engine. (can cause a spin quick in rwd)
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Like shifting without a clutch you have to have in the right rev range, bliping the throttle puts it in that "sweet spot" and is going to help ease the stress on all the parts.
Jon K |
It is now just a natural reaction for me. I started practicing it about a year agao, but I didn't do it everytime. Now I do it everytime I downshift (exept into 1st, I don't downshift into first). When I drive a non-performance stick, its hard for me to remember NOT to do it.
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http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3...ltoegif4ty.gif
The sequence of events is personal preference, I guess. The picture is not how I do it. I brake first (split seconds before the following), then clutch, gas, and downshift all at once. This should all be done BEFORE you turn into a turn, and you should be on throttle through the turn. |
Nice diagram! Needs numbers tho...can't see the blip really....
Anyway... I do Heel and Toe downshift religiously. ;p Even in an Automatic (i forget i'm in an automatic.....i stabbed the brakes thinking it was the clutch once........yeah...shut up ;p). Google "Heel and Toe" and there should be a bunch of step-by-step tutorials. ;p Good luck and remember to practice! Happy New Years! |
There's also lots of good info on this just a few threads down...
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=143285 |
I will almost always do it when I have to stop at a light, and I will rev match down shift before turning on the street from 5-4-3 then heel toe to 2nd for the turn so my revs are nice and high.
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you should be gassing while your in neutral though to get engine speed up to where it should be before you select your lower gear. Your animated picture is actually incorrect if you want to save your syncros.
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Originally Posted by boostedwrx
you should be gassing while your in neutral though to get engine speed up to where it should be before you select your lower gear. Your animated picture is actually incorrect if you want to save your syncros.
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the evo is by far the easiest car i've ever driving to heel toe in! Although really in the evo it's more of left half of the foot and right half of the foot. Just try to use it on the road as often as possible.
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