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EVOONYOASS Feb 5, 2005 06:38 PM

Alcohol Q's?
 
1.Does alcohol injection have any long term effects on the motor? And if so, does the amount of use changed anything? I know the kit is designed to spray dureing a certain boost/full boost setting, but what if you have a lead foot and your always on it? Does this change wear and tear on the motor?
2.Does alcohol injection eliminate the need for higher octane completely?
3.If you have alcohol injection and a custom flash and you add some race gas into the tank(93+C16). Will it benefit you or would further tuneing need to be done to compensate for the higher octane? I know it couldnt hurt, but is it overkill?
4.What is the highest WHP Evolution VIII that is running a custom flash? What turbo setup are they useing?
5.What is the highest WHP with custom flash and alcohol injection? What turbo setup are they useing?
6.At what point of WHP would you recomend someone go from a flash to a EMS?

Thanks and keep up the good work!

Kuba23 Feb 5, 2005 08:15 PM

Well i dont know if i am the highest but i dynoed at 376.2 on 93 at 25 psi 382 torque and the benefit is if i put some race gas i can boost at 30psi i should hit 410+whp stock turbo stock intercooler stock internals stock intercooler piping and flashed ECU by AL
the kit is awesome i have it set to start at 16 psi and i am running right now about 22-23 psi (waiting for headstuds/bolts) what this does is basically cools down everything meaning more boost i have filled up my car 4 times now and i am on my second gallon of alcohol the kit is great i test it everytime i get into my car which takes about 3 seconds (hold down a button) and so far knock on wood no problems whats so ever i think running this kit is safer at 25 psi then 22 psi with no alcohol. before this kit i raced my friends 500 hp s4 of the roll i lost everytime now with this kit set at 23 psi i was ahead of him by half a car lenght till about 130 really a huge difference.

AdamsssEvo Feb 5, 2005 11:50 PM

Hey kuba23 do you have cam gears?

statix Feb 6, 2005 01:23 AM

You won't be boosting 30psi on stock turbo.. Im surpised your able to hit 25psi..

Kuba23 Feb 6, 2005 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by AdamsssEvo
Hey kuba23 do you have cam gears?

Yes i do 264's the car pulls like its MAD seriously 382 torqe is nothing to play with i know my tires suck but i cant launch the car for anything it keeps on going sideways when i launch anything past 4800 rpm its quite amazing

Kuba23 Feb 6, 2005 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by statix
You won't be boosting 30psi on stock turbo.. Im surpised your able to hit 25psi..

Its Been done before

DynoFlash Feb 6, 2005 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by statix
You won't be boosting 30psi on stock turbo.. Im surpised your able to hit 25psi..

Actually some stock turbos can reach 30 psi - it all depends on how the wastegate acutaor is adjusted and the tolerances on the individual turbo

EVOONYOASS Feb 6, 2005 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Kuba23
Well i dont know if i am the highest but i dynoed at 376.2 on 93 at 25 psi 382 torque and the benefit is if i put some race gas i can boost at 30psi i should hit 410+whp stock turbo stock intercooler stock internals stock intercooler piping and flashed ECU by AL
the kit is awesome i have it set to start at 16 psi and i am running right now about 22-23 psi (waiting for headstuds/bolts) what this does is basically cools down everything meaning more boost i have filled up my car 4 times now and i am on my second gallon of alcohol the kit is great i test it everytime i get into my car which takes about 3 seconds (hold down a button) and so far knock on wood no problems whats so ever i think running this kit is safer at 25 psi then 22 psi with no alcohol. before this kit i raced my friends 500 hp s4 of the roll i lost everytime now with this kit set at 23 psi i was ahead of him by half a car lenght till about 130 really a huge difference.

Kuba, those are some pretty nice #'s you have there considering all the stock parts still on the car. Very nice!{thumbup} I bet the car feels like a beast now.

DynoFlash Feb 6, 2005 09:12 PM

Its a monster !

Rollaway Feb 6, 2005 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by statix
You won't be boosting 30psi on stock turbo.. Im surpised your able to hit 25psi..


it will get up there.. it will just drop back down quick after doing so

Zeus Feb 7, 2005 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Actually some stock turbos can reach 30 psi - it all depends on how the wastegate acutaor is adjusted and the tolerances on the individual turbo

Al, have you "slotted" the wastegate actuator bolt holes in order to adjust it?

I'm still milling over pure Alcohol vs waiting for a "windshield washer" kit.

DynoFlash Feb 7, 2005 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Zeus
Al, have you "slotted" the wastegate actuator bolt holes in order to adjust it?

I'm still milling over pure Alcohol vs waiting for a "windshield washer" kit.

I really don't like thalking about those examples as it may lead to people trying things at home which thety should not try!!!!!!!!!! Lets just say that with a little creativity you can get that wastgate to remain almost 100% stuck closed at all times

In order to do this - you need race gas and / or alcohol injection; head studs and an appropriate tune

The results are shocking !

number 8 Feb 7, 2005 09:00 AM

Big Al, You know what would be cool. A dual flash for pump and Alky. With the option to switch to between them.

DynoFlash Feb 7, 2005 09:11 AM

Number 8 - that is very possible - in fact its easy

AdamsssEvo Feb 7, 2005 10:09 AM

Hey Al, so could I just get a custom tune for alky and still be quick on just pump gas?


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