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Old Dec 18, 2008, 02:31 AM
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E85 with 100% meth or 50/50 meth/water?

Not sure which forum this question should be in so I'll start here first. Has anyone run E85 as their primary fuel and added meth injection on top of it? I recently switched to E85 but still have the meth kit on the car.

I did some research and it seems like water-contaminated E85 forms formic acid during low temperature partial combustion. Formic acid causes rapid engine wear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85_in_standard_engines). I assume this doesn't hold true during a WOT pull and 50/50 water mixing with E85 is okay?

It looks like the guys at English Racing has some experience with E85/meth (http://www.englishracing.net/media/r...lishracing-evo) but I would appreciate input from anyone doing E85 & 50/50 meth/water or E85 & 100% meth.
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Originally Posted by KevOVIII
Not sure which forum this question should be in so I'll start here first. Has anyone run E85 as their primary fuel and added meth injection on top of it? I recently switched to E85 but still have the meth kit on the car.
Meth injection 'improves' pump gas to the equivalent of race gas. Running on E85 is already the equivalent of race gas without the added equipment of a meth kit and the associated risks.

I'd sell the meth kit.

If you can get it, you might consider running on E98 or even E100.

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Neither, You will be running next to no gasoline if you add meth to an ethanol based fuel.
If anything I would run the SMALLEST injector with water just to cool the air charge.
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No E98 or E100 in the area. I'm in the California Bay Area so there aren't many E85 stations to begin with.

Thanks for your inputs.
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